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[zan]

I wonder if hes still alive...

If not his bravery is captured for ever....He died for his country

[DT.]

Alive and well and in Acropolis Gymnasium. Don't confuse us with Disneyland in the north, its a free country over here.

[zan]

Alive and well and in Acropolis Gymnasium. Don't confuse us with Disneyland in the north, its a free country over here.

Who was he DT. You have some information on this guy????

[DT.]

Alive and well and in Acropolis Gymnasium. Don't confuse us with Disneyland in the north, its a free country over here.

Who was he DT. You have some information on this guy????

Yep, 16 year old high school kid from Aglantzia (Nicosia). A tc mate of his brought the flag over for him. He's an omonoia supporter (basically means his parents are left wing). Omonoia supporters (the fanatic ones) are a complicated bunch. They do not believe they are GC's but simply Cypriot. They are against anything to do with Greece and the Greeks, they despise doing the national service, they despise the Greek flag and they despise naionalism. They are into anarchy, anti-globalisation and power to the proletariat.

The Turkish angle is mostly to piss off their rivals (the apoel fanatic supporters) who consider themselves uber-Greeks (another bunch of idiots).

[zan]

Alive and well and in Acropolis Gymnasium. Don't confuse us with Disneyland in the north, its a free country over here.

Who was he DT. You have some information on this guy????

Yep, 16 year old high school kid from Aglantzia (Nicosia). A tc mate of his brought the flag over for him. He's an omonoia supporter (basically means his parents are left wing). Omonoia supporters (the fanatic ones) are a complicated bunch. They do not believe they are GC's but simply Cypriot. They are against anything to do with Greece and the Greeks, they despise doing the national service, they despise the Greek flag and they despise naionalism. They are into anarchy, anti-globalisation and power to the proletariat.

The Turkish angle is mostly to piss off their rivals (the apoel fanatic supporters) who consider themselves uber-Greeks (another bunch of idiots).

WOW!!!! So all is fair in war and football.........

[DT.]

Alive and well and in Acropolis Gymnasium. Don't confuse us with Disneyland in the north, its a free country over here.

Who was he DT. You have some information on this guy????

Yep, 16 year old high school kid from Aglantzia (Nicosia). A tc mate of his brought the flag over for him. He's an omonoia supporter (basically means his parents are left wing). Omonoia supporters (the fanatic ones) are a complicated bunch. They do not believe they are GC's but simply Cypriot. They are against anything to do with Greece and the Greeks, they despise doing the national service, they despise the Greek flag and they despise naionalism. They are into anarchy, anti-globalisation and power to the proletariat.

The Turkish angle is mostly to piss off their rivals (the apoel fanatic supporters) who consider themselves uber-Greeks (another bunch of idiots).

WOW!!!! So all is fair in war and football.........

stupid rich spoilt kids pretending they know what communism and fascism is.

[Tim Drayton]

Just last week I was walking along the old pier next to the Old Harbour in Limassol, and was surprised to hear two youths aged 14-15 there speaking Turkish. I stopped to speak to them. They said they were Turkish Cypriots who had been living in Limassol for ten years. They said they thought the south was much better than the north, and had no wish to live anywhere except Limassol. They did not give me the impression of being people who were suffering oppression.

Tim, I don't know if you read my "Kikapu's Time in Cyprus" last year or since at
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=11420 , because I wrote about some Turkish Cypriots I met in Paphos and Larnaca who were very happy being in the south and had no concerns at all. I was told there were 50 TC's living in Paphos by those I met there. I have no idea the number of TC's living in Larnaca.

Kikapu ... there are TCs living happily around the Polis area too.

I'm sure there are. We were there just for couple of hours for lunch and did not meet an TC's there, but it is redundant to think, that the TC's would not be happy to live in the RoC, or else, they can easily move to the north, and yet they stay. I'm sure many more TC's would have moved to the south also, if they were not given GC properties in the north, in "exchange" for theirs in the south. The TC's were forced to conspire involuntarily in taking GC's properties as their own, to make it more difficult for them to go back to their homes in the south, along with closing the "Green Line" for 30+ years did not help either. It was all part of the plan by Denktash to create a "corrupt society" along with bringing in the settlers in huge numbers to keep the True TC's in their place, because they were given voting rights to have things done his way. Now the settlers give the TC's funny looks because the TC's have an "accent", thanks to an honest reporting by Zan. Talk about foreigners (settlers) making the natives (TC's) feel like a foreigner in their own "country". If that doesn't take the fucking cake, nothing will.!

I am not 100% sure about this, but I seem to remember reading in the TC press about a proposal to introduce new legislation that would permit TCs to relinquish their "equal value" properties in the north so that they could then proceed to reclaim their orignal properties in the south. People who sold or moved back into their properties into the south without first relinquishing their "equal value" properties in the north would then be penalised. The latter measure would prevent people from selling their "equal value" properties, pocketing the money, moving south and reclaiming their properties there once they had satisfied the residential condition, as a certain TC is alleged to have done when, in a blaze of publiicity, he moved back to original home in Episkopi.

This sounds like it would be a significant development if it came to fruition, and could lead to more TCs returning to the south.

[Nikitas]

If TCs start moving to the south, assuming they can clarify their property dealings and be fully "legal" in the south, would place interesting stresses on the system in both sides.

A mixed GC-TC south would be pitted against a Turkish occupied north and no one would be able to claim that the occupation is any sort of "peace operation". If enough TCs move south then they conceivably could seek elected office as per the 1960 constitution, and how would it look if a TC vice president of the ROC makes statements in an international venue, like the UN, demanding removal of Turkish troops?

Sounds like a peculiar mixup, but nothing would surprise me in the Cyprus issue.

[roseandchan]

the trouble with that tim, is that lots of them built on the land and sold it on to brits. from what i understand in the village some people were also given land for services rendered. i'm not sure how true this is? but heated talks have been going on between them as some people got the hand out and others didn't. also i have friends who don't want their land back in paphos they want to stay here. to be honest how is land in my village ever going to be equal value to that in paphos?
i think that there have been a lot of people who have been playing both sides in the property situation and they are about to get caught up with.
just to let you know the so called settlers or do you mean the turkish? have been given kimlik cards, which are not full status. so i am informed by the relavent office. its not the same as the tc's kimlik card status. even in our village recently they have been complaining about how many turkish people have moved in. zan probably notices the difference in accent as tc's speak turkish in a different way to mainlanders. something we notice as we are still learning .

[Tim Drayton]

the trouble with that tim, is that lots of them built on the land and sold it on to brits.

I wonder what they then did with the money. Did they by any chance use it to buy property with sound Turkish Cypriot title? It seems that everyone in the north and their dog knows how dodgy "equal value" title is, but nobody cares to inform foreign buyers of this.