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[denizaksulu]

So where is your ''HIGHLY'' credible source Oracle?

It was there with the quote ....

..... Five hundred Turkish Cypriots are regarded as missing from 1963, 1967 and 1974, though this number includes those killed in the aforementioned massacres. Rape of Turkish Cypriot women was isolated. Turkish Cypriot journalist Sevgul Uludag in her book on massacres and mass graves in Cyprus, mentions one case of rape against a Turkish Cypriot woman. Forty thousand Turkish Cypriots one-third of their population moved to the north of the island after 1974; but this was at the behest of Turkey, which now wanted to consolidate the Turkish Cypriot puppet state it was planning to establish in the occupied areas.

You'd make yourself look silly if you dispute that ... you do have Sevgul Uludag's book don't you?

This is not a quote from her book Oracle but a news paper reporters view..who is the reporter.....You are twisting and turning like a snake lady

So are you disputing that a quote combining a respectable UK newspaper, with a quote from the book of an award winning TC journalist mentioning a TC situation, is not credible evidence?

That's the last time I do you TCs a favour and post TC evidence of GC bad-doings ( although it didn't say the crime was committed by a GC ) ... get your own!

Hi O. Can you really take a tiny sliver of 'evidence' and produce it as 'truth'. As scientist you know better than that. We dont mind what evidence is provided. They are all welcome. But where only one instance evidence is provided, does not mean that there was no other. Uludag, the lady she is, surely did not want to flood her works with every single piece of nastyness she got her hands on. This would compromise her position of being an impartial journalist.

Thank you for your post anyway.

[Oracle]

Bizzare it may sound i think Greece and Cyprus were the real winners of the 1974 invasion because both got rid of the monarcho-fascist pillars that held our countries and our peoples hostages since WW2.

The palace, the intervening army, the intervening church, rigged elections, EOKA B, Grivas, Sampson all these were the offsprings of the undemocratic climate that culminated after the civil war.If still around our democracy would be handicapped, we would have too generals speaking about politics and our ethnikophrones-kemalists determining what is right or wrong.

The 1974 defeat brought this rotten regime to both Greece and Cyprus down.Political freedom was followed by economic prosperity integrated into EU and other important institutions and from a pariah we emerged as highly respectable countries.

At the same time the win enabled turkey's own undemocratic regime to stay till nowadays and probably even further a country with a big size but a very small stature in all international institutions with it's people living in poverty and oppression.TRNC is a pariah surviving only because of the help of Turkey with TC not having control over their own matters in striking contrast with GC.

Just think about that.Turkey gained a piece of arid land and the ever continuation of it's military monolithic grip on power while Greece and Cyprus got democracy and economic prosperity.

Just sit and think a bit about that.

It may be arid land to you as you sound money centred, but it is rich historical heritage, and the birthplace of many Cypriots, to the rest of us. That's not a fair swap for Democracy which we could have had without blood-shed and losses if the TCs were normal, forward thinking citizens.

[Salonikios]

I am and sound democracy centered.What to do with land (which is arid, that's a fact) if Papadopoulos,Ioannidis,Grivas,Makarios,Samson the army and the Palace are ruling me and infringe my constitutional rights? Do Turkish people are culturally more rich now that they got it? Would you prefer being a citizen there or in Greece & Cyprus?

[Oracle]

So where is your ''HIGHLY'' credible source Oracle?

It was there with the quote ....

..... Five hundred Turkish Cypriots are regarded as missing from 1963, 1967 and 1974, though this number includes those killed in the aforementioned massacres. Rape of Turkish Cypriot women was isolated. Turkish Cypriot journalist Sevgul Uludag in her book on massacres and mass graves in Cyprus, mentions one case of rape against a Turkish Cypriot woman. Forty thousand Turkish Cypriots one-third of their population moved to the north of the island after 1974; but this was at the behest of Turkey, which now wanted to consolidate the Turkish Cypriot puppet state it was planning to establish in the occupied areas.

You'd make yourself look silly if you dispute that ... you do have Sevgul Uludag's book don't you?

This is not a quote from her book Oracle but a news paper reporters view..who is the reporter.....You are twisting and turning like a snake lady

So are you disputing that a quote combining a respectable UK newspaper, with a quote from the book of an award winning TC journalist mentioning a TC situation, is not credible evidence?

That's the last time I do you TCs a favour and post TC evidence of GC bad-doings ( although it didn't say the crime was committed by a GC ) ... get your own!

Hi O. Can you really take a tiny sliver of 'evidence' and produce it as 'truth'. As scientist you know better than that. We dont mind what evidence is provided. They are all welcome. But where only one instance evidence is provided, does not mean that there was no other. Uludag, the lady she is, surely did not want to flood her works with every single piece of nastyness she got her hands on. This would compromise her position of being an impartial journalist.

Thank you for your post anyway.

Deniz ... at least I tried to find some evidence to back-up something one of you Turk-TCs spouted without providing any back up ...

Do better if you can!

Until then, that is all we have to go on .....

[zan]

So where is your ''HIGHLY'' credible source Oracle?

It was there with the quote ....

..... Five hundred Turkish Cypriots are regarded as missing from 1963, 1967 and 1974, though this number includes those killed in the aforementioned massacres. Rape of Turkish Cypriot women was isolated. Turkish Cypriot journalist Sevgul Uludag in her book on massacres and mass graves in Cyprus, mentions one case of rape against a Turkish Cypriot woman. Forty thousand Turkish Cypriots one-third of their population moved to the north of the island after 1974; but this was at the behest of Turkey, which now wanted to consolidate the Turkish Cypriot puppet state it was planning to establish in the occupied areas.

You'd make yourself look silly if you dispute that ... you do have Sevgul Uludag's book don't you?

This is not a quote from her book Oracle but a news paper reporters view..who is the reporter.....You are twisting and turning like a snake lady

So are you disputing that a quote combining a respectable UK newspaper, with a quote from the book of an award winning TC journalist mentioning a TC situation, is not credible evidence?

That's the last time I do you TCs a favour and post TC evidence of GC bad-doings ( although it didn't say the crime was committed by a GC ) ... get your own!

Hi O. Can you really take a tiny sliver of 'evidence' and produce it as 'truth'. As scientist you know better than that. We dont mind what evidence is provided. They are all welcome. But where only one instance evidence is provided, does not mean that there was no other. Uludag, the lady she is, surely did not want to flood her works with every single piece of nastyness she got her hands on. This would compromise her position of being an impartial journalist.

Thank you for your post anyway.

Deniz ... at least I tried to find some evidence to back-up something one of you Turk-TCs spouted without providing any back up ...

Do better if you can!

Until then, that is all we have to go on .....

Best we can say is "Good try"......Now you try harder!!!!

[Oracle]

So where is your ''HIGHLY'' credible source Oracle?

It was there with the quote ....

..... Five hundred Turkish Cypriots are regarded as missing from 1963, 1967 and 1974, though this number includes those killed in the aforementioned massacres. Rape of Turkish Cypriot women was isolated. Turkish Cypriot journalist Sevgul Uludag in her book on massacres and mass graves in Cyprus, mentions one case of rape against a Turkish Cypriot woman. Forty thousand Turkish Cypriots one-third of their population moved to the north of the island after 1974; but this was at the behest of Turkey, which now wanted to consolidate the Turkish Cypriot puppet state it was planning to establish in the occupied areas.

You'd make yourself look silly if you dispute that ... you do have Sevgul Uludag's book don't you?

This is not a quote from her book Oracle but a news paper reporters view..who is the reporter.....You are twisting and turning like a snake lady

So are you disputing that a quote combining a respectable UK newspaper, with a quote from the book of an award winning TC journalist mentioning a TC situation, is not credible evidence?

That's the last time I do you TCs a favour and post TC evidence of GC bad-doings ( although it didn't say the crime was committed by a GC ) ... get your own!

Hi O. Can you really take a tiny sliver of 'evidence' and produce it as 'truth'. As scientist you know better than that. We dont mind what evidence is provided. They are all welcome. But where only one instance evidence is provided, does not mean that there was no other. Uludag, the lady she is, surely did not want to flood her works with every single piece of nastyness she got her hands on. This would compromise her position of being an impartial journalist.

Thank you for your post anyway.

Deniz ... at least I tried to find some evidence to back-up something one of you Turk-TCs spouted without providing any back up ...

Do better if you can!

Until then, that is all we have to go on .....

Best we can say is "Good try"......Now you try harder!!!!

No! .... Much better is if I carry on believing no TC women were raped by GCs because I can find no evidence for it, and no Turk-TC has come up with any evidence , and now you are doubting the one case I did manage to find.

So fine! ... have it your way!

I hereby withdraw my Telegraph /Sevgal quote as rubbish, and accept there are ZERO credible reports of TC women being raped by GCs during the invasion or because of the Invasion.

[T_C]

The people who were raped would never of been forced to talk about it. Unlike the GCs who were even made to go on camera.

There are many instances of TCs being raped, even in the video Toni whatever his name is made. You GCs are ignorant SHEEP and we wouldnt expect nothing more from the likes of you, so who cares what you believe...

[DT.]

You GCs are ignorant SHEEP and we wouldnt expect nothing more from the likes of you, so who cares what you believe...

[T_C]

You GCs are ignorant SHEEP and we wouldnt expect nothing more from the likes of you, so who cares what you believe...

Sorry DT

I just get SO ANGRY on here sometimes

[DT.]

You GCs are ignorant SHEEP and we wouldnt expect nothing more from the likes of you, so who cares what you believe...

Sorry DT



I just get SO ANGRY on here sometimes

you gotta grow a couple more layers of skin on this forum TC.