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Postby zan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:50 pm

Greece interested in Cyprus’ oil and natural gas reserves



7 September 2008 | 06:29 | FOCUS News Agency



Nicosia. Cyprus’ Commerce Minister Antonis Paschalidis announced there have been informal Greek business interests towards participation in the second run for licenses concerning the exploration of crude oil and natural gas reserves in the coastal area of Cyprus.
The Cypriot government has also confirmed its plans for partnerships with countries willing to supply natural gas to the country.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:00 pm

the gas is in the south, u turks wwant ur own north republic you cant take our recourses also, you cant have it both ways either you want a trnc or one cyprus with equal rights and access to the islands natural recourses. just like south has no say in anything in north, this goes both ways not just for south
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:08 pm

paliometoxo wrote:the gas is in the south, u turks wwant ur own north republic you cant take our recourses also, you cant have it both ways either you want a trnc or one cyprus with equal rights and access to the islands natural recourses. just like south has no say in anything in north, this goes both ways not just for south


Are you offering me a deal......You are willing to recognise the TRNC for your gas.....DONE!!!!!!
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:46 pm

Not a deal, it is a decision, are we two or one? Make up your minds.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:33 pm

zan wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:the gas is in the south, u turks wwant ur own north republic you cant take our recourses also, you cant have it both ways either you want a trnc or one cyprus with equal rights and access to the islands natural recourses. just like south has no say in anything in north, this goes both ways not just for south


Are you offering me a deal......You are willing to recognise the TRNC for your gas.....DONE!!!!!!


its GCS gas why should the gcs give trnc recognition for it? the turks are the ones that want to use it when its nowhere near the TRNC so its none of turkeys business what Gcs do with it since they want recognised trnc so badly in the north, the turks cant have a recognised trnc AND tell GCS what to do with resources. ( resources not in trnc ).. the turks cant have it both ways as much as they would like to have full control over all the island and a seperate state... how does that make sense? more take take from the turks i see..

since when do GCs have ANY say on what goes on in trnc or any of the resources? but its ok for tcs to tell gcs what to do in south..

NO either turks want a re united land with equal rights and sharing all the resources or trnc want seperate land and can sftu and not try tell the south what to do since you have your "state" in the north use your own resources?
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Postby Piratis » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:40 pm

You see Zan, other countries want to make deals and have partnership with us about any possible oil that belongs to us. On the other hand Turkey is the only country who wants to steal what belongs to us (which is somehting not unusual for those criminal thieves).

I hope now you see the difference.
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:55 pm

Nikitas wrote:Not a deal, it is a decision, are we two or one? Make up your minds.


You tell me.......How about we wait for the conclusion of the talks and then we will know for sure. Then if it pans out that way, you can go your way and we can go ours or look for a partner together.

The idea also is that Turkey has already offered these things to Cyprus but it seems a partnership with the people whose interests lye in the area is not good enough for you...
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:57 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
zan wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:the gas is in the south, u turks wwant ur own north republic you cant take our recourses also, you cant have it both ways either you want a trnc or one cyprus with equal rights and access to the islands natural recourses. just like south has no say in anything in north, this goes both ways not just for south


Are you offering me a deal......You are willing to recognise the TRNC for your gas.....DONE!!!!!!


its GCS gas why should the gcs give trnc recognition for it? the turks are the ones that want to use it when its nowhere near the TRNC so its none of turkeys business what Gcs do with it since they want recognised trnc so badly in the north, the turks cant have a recognised trnc AND tell GCS what to do with resources. ( resources not in trnc ).. the turks cant have it both ways as much as they would like to have full control over all the island and a seperate state... how does that make sense? more take take from the turks i see..

since when do GCs have ANY say on what goes on in trnc or any of the resources? but its ok for tcs to tell gcs what to do in south..

NO either turks want a re united land with equal rights and sharing all the resources or trnc want seperate land and can sftu and not try tell the south what to do since you have your "state" in the north use your own resources?


Simple mind with a simple solution :roll: :roll: There are many either or's my friend so one thing does not cancel out a whole heap of others....
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Postby utu » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:11 am

If Turkey truly recognizes the north of Cyprus as a sovereign state, then they would have no say in how the south of Cyprus explores oil in its territorial waters, yet Turkey (through their admnistration in the north) is objecting on the grounds that the Turkish Cypriots had not been consulted - as implied in the constitution of 1960. This is not logical as I don't think that Turkey has any right to object as it (a) is out of their economic zone, (b) the northern administration - which did declare itself independent in 1983 - would not have any ligitimate nautical territorial claim south of Cyprus, and (c) the Republic of Cyprus does have a sovereign right to permit oil exploration in it's economic zone. Sorry, Turkey, but your recognition of the north really invalidates any claim that you, or the northern administration may have. As far as you are concerned, the partnership republic no longer exists, so your arguments on the basis of partnership and consultation as per the constitution of the partnership republic are null and void.
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Postby zan » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:33 am

utu wrote:If Turkey truly recognizes the north of Cyprus as a sovereign state, then they would have no say in how the south of Cyprus explores oil in its territorial waters, yet Turkey (through their admnistration in the north) is objecting on the grounds that the Turkish Cypriots had not been consulted - as implied in the constitution of 1960. This is not logical as I don't think that Turkey has any right to object as it (a) is out of their economic zone, (b) the northern administration - which did declare itself independent in 1983 - would not have any ligitimate nautical territorial claim south of Cyprus, and (c) the Republic of Cyprus does have a sovereign right to permit oil exploration in it's economic zone. Sorry, Turkey, but your recognition of the north really invalidates any claim that you, or the northern administration may have. As far as you are concerned, the partnership republic no longer exists, so your arguments on the basis of partnership and consultation as per the constitution of the partnership republic are null and void.


But the "RoC" claims it represents ALL cypriots and does not recognise the TRNC and if the Zurich agreement is still in operation as it claims then the TCs have every right to either have a share or block any moves to drill. This clearly is not the case so Turkey as a guarantor power can and must object to anything that does not give the TCS their rights under this agreement. Either that or give up any claim to the North which will allow the rest of the world to recognise the TRNC. They can't have it all ways utu.
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