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[paliometoxo]

an the turks only recognise parts of 1960 agreements that suite them....

[zan]

[roseandchan]

what about a trade off. turkish water for some gas?

[Salonikios]

But the "RoC" claims it represents ALL cypriots and does not recognise the TRNC and if the Zurich agreement is still in operation as it claims then the TCs have every right to either have a share or block any moves to drill. This clearly is not the case so Turkey as a guarantor power can and must object to anything that does not give the TCS their rights under this agreement. Either that or give up any claim to the North which will allow the rest of the world to recognise the TRNC. They can't have it all ways utu.

What you are saying is irrational.Cyprus off course recognizes that it represents all Cypriots to the part of the island that isn't occupied by Turkey and out of it's control.So any money poured in would be for the benefit of all Cypriots who are it's citizens Greeks or Turks alike.It would be glad to share the profits with more TC but unfortunately there are 200,000 of them who refuse the citizenship of Cyprus for the TRNC regime.And Cyprus can do nothing about that.

[DT.]

what about a trade off. turkish water for some gas?

we're gonna power the desalination plants with gas.

[zan]

But the "RoC" claims it represents ALL cypriots and does not recognise the TRNC and if the Zurich agreement is still in operation as it claims then the TCs have every right to either have a share or block any moves to drill. This clearly is not the case so Turkey as a guarantor power can and must object to anything that does not give the TCS their rights under this agreement. Either that or give up any claim to the North which will allow the rest of the world to recognise the TRNC. They can't have it all ways utu.

What you are saying is irrational.Cyprus off course recognizes that it represents all Cypriots to the part of the island that isn't occupied by Turkey and out of it's control.So any money poured in would be for the benefit of all Cypriots who are it's citizens Greeks or Turks alike.It would be glad to share the profits with more TC but unfortunately there are 200,000 of them who refuse the citizenship of Cyprus for the TRNC regime.And Cyprus can do nothing about that.

So there is a problem and is not as simple as you make it out to be...Perhaps all should wait for a solution and then decide who has what and why!!!!Leaving out facts is irrational....

[miltiades]

If Turkey truly recognizes the north of Cyprus as a sovereign state, then they would have no say in how the south of Cyprus explores oil in its territorial waters, yet Turkey (through their admnistration in the north) is objecting on the grounds that the Turkish Cypriots had not been consulted - as implied in the constitution of 1960. This is not logical as I don't think that Turkey has any right to object as it (a) is out of their economic zone, (b) the northern administration - which did declare itself independent in 1983 - would not have any ligitimate nautical territorial claim south of Cyprus, and (c) the Republic of Cyprus does have a sovereign right to permit oil exploration in it's economic zone. Sorry, Turkey, but your recognition of the north really invalidates any claim that you, or the northern administration may have. As far as you are concerned, the partnership republic no longer exists, so your arguments on the basis of partnership and consultation as per the constitution of the partnership republic are null and void.

But the "RoC" claims it represents ALL cypriots and does not recognise the TRNC and if the Zurich agreement is still in operation as it claims then the TCs have every right to either have a share or block any moves to drill. This clearly is not the case so Turkey as a guarantor power can and must object to anything that does not give the TCS their rights under this agreement. Either that or give up any claim to the North which will allow the rest of the world to recognise the TRNC. They can't have it all ways utu.

The ROC does represent all Cypriots . Since you use inverted commas for the ROC and not for the "trnc" do I take it that you are inferring that the "TRNC" is a recognised nation and if so who by .
I know I'm an assassin and the "TRNC" REPRESSENTS ALL CYPRIOTS !!!!

[zan]

If Turkey truly recognizes the north of Cyprus as a sovereign state, then they would have no say in how the south of Cyprus explores oil in its territorial waters, yet Turkey (through their admnistration in the north) is objecting on the grounds that the Turkish Cypriots had not been consulted - as implied in the constitution of 1960. This is not logical as I don't think that Turkey has any right to object as it (a) is out of their economic zone, (b) the northern administration - which did declare itself independent in 1983 - would not have any ligitimate nautical territorial claim south of Cyprus, and (c) the Republic of Cyprus does have a sovereign right to permit oil exploration in it's economic zone. Sorry, Turkey, but your recognition of the north really invalidates any claim that you, or the northern administration may have. As far as you are concerned, the partnership republic no longer exists, so your arguments on the basis of partnership and consultation as per the constitution of the partnership republic are null and void.

But the "RoC" claims it represents ALL cypriots and does not recognise the TRNC and if the Zurich agreement is still in operation as it claims then the TCs have every right to either have a share or block any moves to drill. This clearly is not the case so Turkey as a guarantor power can and must object to anything that does not give the TCS their rights under this agreement. Either that or give up any claim to the North which will allow the rest of the world to recognise the TRNC. They can't have it all ways utu.

The ROC does represent all Cypriots . Since you use inverted commas for the ROC and not for the "trnc" do I take it that you are inferring that the "TRNC" is a recognised nation and if so who by .
I know I'm an assassin and the "TRNC" REPRESSENTS ALL CYPRIOTS !!!!

The TRNC does not claim to represent ALL cypriots and acts accordingly. The "RoC" on the other hand does but works only for the Greek population and promotes the Greek flag and the Greek national anthem and Greek architecture and everything Greek in anything it does. Perhaps a deep breath and another glass of wine will clear your head!!!

[roseandchan]

how are you every going to get along if you can't learn to share?

[DT.]

how are you every going to get along if you can't learn to share?

So someone's taken my home from me and some strangers are living in it now. I guess I was brought up wrong cause I don't really feel like "sharing".