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Laying to rest Cyprus's ghosts

Postby zan » Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:30 pm

The issue of the "missing" is still a contentious topic in divided Cyprus
Talks this week on the reunification of Cyprus look more hopeful than many would have dared to think possible. But the discovery of remains from some of those killed during the 1974 Turkish invasion is refreshing old grievances, as Tabitha Morgan reports.
The Cyprus police museum is perhaps not high on the list of must-see attractions for the tourist but it does draw a steady stream of visitors, mostly Greek Cypriot children on school trips.

One of the main exhibits is a dark blue prison wagon, one of a pair used during the final years of the British occupation for transporting captured guerrilla fighters between the central court and Nicosia prison.

Nine of them were hanged there by the colonial authorities during the 1950s, some no more than teenagers.

In transit the prisoners were locked behind a heavy sliding door, while their guards enjoyed marginally greater comfort sitting on a pair of blue padded seats.

Greek Cypriot pupils are shown the bars on the floor of the vehicle to which prisoner's feet were chained. They are urged to reflect on the courage of those young men who struggled to overthrow colonial rule, and taught to take a pride in the story of their national heritage.

Ethnic identity

What is less well chronicled is how, just three years after Cypriot independence, when inter-communal killings began in 1963 the van was used to transport a Turkish Cypriot prison officer to his death at the hands of right-wing paramilitaries.


An air strike by the Turkish Air Force during the 1974 Turkish invasion
On 21 December 1963 Mustafa Arif, a senior officer at Nicosia prison, was admitted to hospital in what is today the Greek Cypriot side of the city to be treated for a heart condition.

By the next day relations between the two communities had collapsed. Riots broke out in Nicosia, shops were looted and burned and the Turkish Cypriot community retreated behind barricades in the north of the city.

Shortly after, Mustafa received a visit from his Greek Cypriot colleagues who urged him leave the hospital and to go with them in the prison van, to a safer place. He agreed to be driven away.

No-one knows for sure what happened next. Was the sick man allowed to sit on one of the comfortable blue padded seats? How long was it before he realised that something was dreadfully wrong?

On the other side of the city, in the Turkish Cypriot enclave, Mustafa's 10-year-old son Kutlay had just learned to ride a bicycle. He was eager to show his father what he could do, so every day Kutlay brought his bike to meet the bus that he confidently expected would bring his father home.

But Mustafa Arif was listed as "missing" and for the next 44 years he has been considered "missing": one of those Cypriots killed because they had the wrong ethnic identity.

Burial sites

Greek Cypriots have their own missing, mostly men killed at the time of the Turkish invasion in 1974. The stories of their grieving children, and of families pulled out of joint, are just as raw.


Scientists have identified the remains of many missing people
These ghostly figures whose killers have never been punished have a symbolic and political potency. There has been little reconciliation, no attempt to reach across the divide and listen to the stories told by Cypriots from the other side of the island.

But recent work by United Nations forensic pathologists may soon force that to change. Over the last 12 months the scientists have located and identified the remains of many missing people and returned them to their families.

Burial sites that were isolated in the 1960s and 1970s are today in the centre of urban development. One excavation took place in the car park of Nicosia's new multi-screen cinema.

Kutlay is now a middle aged man with a family of his own. Until recently he was the mayor of Northern Nicosia. Earlier this summer he received a phone call from the technicians at the UN lab explaining that most, but not all of his father's skeleton had been recovered from a well in a Nicosia suburb.

Kutlay and his family were invited to view the remains, spread out on a plastic table draped in a white sheet.

Kutlay has spent much of his career campaigning for the island to be re-united. His views on his father's killers are clear.

"They were fascist thugs," he says, "they happened to be Greek Cypriots, but that is not what is important about them."

While the remains of the missing lay lost underground, issues to do with culpability, justice and retribution could be set aside. Now they are being unearthed, Cypriots will have to decide how deeply they want to search for answers to these more difficult questions.

Mustafa Arif was buried earlier this summer next to his wife. It is a mark of how much times are changing here that one of those present was an official Greek Cypriot representative of the President, Dimitris Christofias.

There is no doubt that among the current Greek and Turkish Cypriot leadership there is a strong desire to overcome the past. What is not so clear is whether Cypriots at large are ready to follow their lead.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:35 pm

Obviously detailing one death, from one side is hardly conducive to laying anything to rest. :roll:

Did the GCs only lose mostly men, and only in 1974 as the article suggests ....

Greek Cypriots have their own missing, mostly men killed at the time of the Turkish invasion in 1974.


In a week effort towards credibility there is this one brief reference to what the GCs suffered ...

The stories of their grieving children, and of families pulled out of joint, are just as raw.


However it goes into great detail about this one TC man ... the father of the person who set up this report no less!

On 21 December 1963 Mustafa Arif, a senior officer at Nicosia prison, was admitted to hospital in what is today the Greek Cypriot side of the city to be treated for a heart condition....

Shortly after, Mustafa received a visit from his Greek Cypriot colleagues who urged him leave the hospital and to go with them in the prison van, to a safer place. He agreed to be driven away.


But please note:

No-one knows for sure what happened next


Going on to implicate the GCs in his death is ridiculous when he sounds like a prime target for the TMT.

The Turkish Cypriot civil administration came under TMT control especially after the inter-communal clashes that began in December 1963.

He sounds like he was a prime target for the TMT ......
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Postby zan » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:02 pm

A perfect example of accusations without ANY evidence dear Stella and the way the Greek political mind works.......I cannot thank you enough.... 8)

Be careful though...I know you have taken GRs position but one more gaff like this and DT could send you packing as well.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:57 pm

Why is it a gaff to point out your inaccuracies, distortions and one-sided accusations?

Was this presented for us to give it the OK then Zan?

Because I am not your patsy, Mr. Mullah! :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:58 pm

Oracle wrote:Obviously detailing one death, from one side is hardly conducive to laying anything to rest. :roll:

Did the GCs only lose mostly men, and only in 1974 as the article suggests ....

Greek Cypriots have their own missing, mostly men killed at the time of the Turkish invasion in 1974.


In a week effort towards credibility there is this one brief reference to what the GCs suffered ...

The stories of their grieving children, and of families pulled out of joint, are just as raw.


However it goes into great detail about this one TC man ... the father of the person who set up this report no less!

On 21 December 1963 Mustafa Arif, a senior officer at Nicosia prison, was admitted to hospital in what is today the Greek Cypriot side of the city to be treated for a heart condition....

Shortly after, Mustafa received a visit from his Greek Cypriot colleagues who urged him leave the hospital and to go with them in the prison van, to a safer place. He agreed to be driven away.


But please note:

No-one knows for sure what happened next


Going on to implicate the GCs in his death is ridiculous when he sounds like a prime target for the TMT.

The Turkish Cypriot civil administration came under TMT control especially after the inter-communal clashes that began in December 1963.

He sounds like he was a prime target for the TMT ......



Still in denial Oracle? There are many others who will not deny the murder of TCs.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:03 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Obviously detailing one death, from one side is hardly conducive to laying anything to rest. :roll:

Did the GCs only lose mostly men, and only in 1974 as the article suggests ....

Greek Cypriots have their own missing, mostly men killed at the time of the Turkish invasion in 1974.


In a week effort towards credibility there is this one brief reference to what the GCs suffered ...

The stories of their grieving children, and of families pulled out of joint, are just as raw.


However it goes into great detail about this one TC man ... the father of the person who set up this report no less!

On 21 December 1963 Mustafa Arif, a senior officer at Nicosia prison, was admitted to hospital in what is today the Greek Cypriot side of the city to be treated for a heart condition....

Shortly after, Mustafa received a visit from his Greek Cypriot colleagues who urged him leave the hospital and to go with them in the prison van, to a safer place. He agreed to be driven away.


But please note:

No-one knows for sure what happened next


Going on to implicate the GCs in his death is ridiculous when he sounds like a prime target for the TMT.

The Turkish Cypriot civil administration came under TMT control especially after the inter-communal clashes that began in December 1963.

He sounds like he was a prime target for the TMT ......



Still in denial Oracle? There are many others who will not deny the murder of TCs.


.... so it seems there was just this one TC "murder" or is there something wrong with the article? Inconclusive from start to finish!

No-one knows for sure what happened next


.... although you and Zan seemed to have decided there could only be one conclusion to that!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:07 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Obviously detailing one death, from one side is hardly conducive to laying anything to rest. :roll:

Did the GCs only lose mostly men, and only in 1974 as the article suggests ....

Greek Cypriots have their own missing, mostly men killed at the time of the Turkish invasion in 1974.


In a week effort towards credibility there is this one brief reference to what the GCs suffered ...

The stories of their grieving children, and of families pulled out of joint, are just as raw.


However it goes into great detail about this one TC man ... the father of the person who set up this report no less!

On 21 December 1963 Mustafa Arif, a senior officer at Nicosia prison, was admitted to hospital in what is today the Greek Cypriot side of the city to be treated for a heart condition....

Shortly after, Mustafa received a visit from his Greek Cypriot colleagues who urged him leave the hospital and to go with them in the prison van, to a safer place. He agreed to be driven away.


But please note:

No-one knows for sure what happened next


Going on to implicate the GCs in his death is ridiculous when he sounds like a prime target for the TMT.

The Turkish Cypriot civil administration came under TMT control especially after the inter-communal clashes that began in December 1963.

He sounds like he was a prime target for the TMT ......



Still in denial Oracle? There are many others who will not deny the murder of TCs.


.... so it seems there was just this one TC "murder" or is there something wrong with the article? Inconclusive from start to finish!

No-one knows for sure what happened next


.... although you and Zan seemed to have decided there could only be one conclusion to that!



Just one of many O. We dont decide anything. The bones do talk. (a la Scarpetta)
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:20 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Obviously detailing one death, from one side is hardly conducive to laying anything to rest. :roll:

Did the GCs only lose mostly men, and only in 1974 as the article suggests ....

Greek Cypriots have their own missing, mostly men killed at the time of the Turkish invasion in 1974.


In a week effort towards credibility there is this one brief reference to what the GCs suffered ...

The stories of their grieving children, and of families pulled out of joint, are just as raw.


However it goes into great detail about this one TC man ... the father of the person who set up this report no less!

On 21 December 1963 Mustafa Arif, a senior officer at Nicosia prison, was admitted to hospital in what is today the Greek Cypriot side of the city to be treated for a heart condition....

Shortly after, Mustafa received a visit from his Greek Cypriot colleagues who urged him leave the hospital and to go with them in the prison van, to a safer place. He agreed to be driven away.


But please note:

No-one knows for sure what happened next


Going on to implicate the GCs in his death is ridiculous when he sounds like a prime target for the TMT.

The Turkish Cypriot civil administration came under TMT control especially after the inter-communal clashes that began in December 1963.

He sounds like he was a prime target for the TMT ......



Still in denial Oracle? There are many others who will not deny the murder of TCs.


.... so it seems there was just this one TC "murder" or is there something wrong with the article? Inconclusive from start to finish!

No-one knows for sure what happened next


.... although you and Zan seemed to have decided there could only be one conclusion to that!



Just one of many O. We dont decide anything. The bones do talk. (a la Scarpetta)


So long it is not just TCs that do the talking ....

Pleased you agree with me that this article is a non-entity through serious omissions .... and on GC losses!
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Postby Sotos » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:31 pm

Today two more Greek Cypriots that were found in mass graves were buried. No report from the British about them :( Because Turks and British are partners. They both want to occupy parts of our island and keep their armies here.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:32 pm

Turkish Cypriots were murdered by G/C bloody extremists who detested the Turkish Cypriots and wanted nothing but the total extinction of the T/C people .One such individual was Nicos Sampson .
Likewise T/C extremists murdered in cold blood G/Cs because they too had hatred in their hearts and wanted the partition of our island.Evidence of extremism we see daily on this forum , rather than forget , forgive and move on we have amongst us extremists who dont give a shit about the future of this island as long as they can stick their chest out , fly their foreign bloody rug and betray Cyprus in the process.
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