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Postby Piratis » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:36 pm

Apparently the only "decent people" are the Turks according to Zan as they are the only ones who keep giving lame excuses for murdering 1000s of people and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands.

The TCs are the ones who attacked first the GCs, starting the bloodshed that Zan is crying about:



Tell me Zan, the day after you attacked us, would Greece be justified to invade Cyprus, kill 1000s and ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands of TCs from Cyprus?
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:43 pm

Piratis wrote:Apparently the only "decent people" are the Turks according to Zan as they are the only ones who keep giving lame excuses for murdering 1000s of people and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands.

The TCs are the ones who attacked first the GCs, starting the bloodshed that Zan is crying about:



Tell me Zan, the day after you attacked us, would Greece be justified to invade Cyprus, kill 1000s and ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands of TCs from Cyprus?

Who was it that counter attacked again Piratis......Watch the video again if you don't know......Now can you find a video of one of your activists that has been so honest as Denktas......I think you should see the whole series as well...What am I saying...Of course you have...That is why you chose to show the only part that suits you..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Piratis » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:12 pm

This is the very first inter-communal conflict Zan. This is said clearly in the video as well. What happened before that was Greek Cypriots VS British Colonialists. There was no inter-communal conflict until you attacked us.
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:54 pm

Piratis wrote:This is the very first inter-communal conflict Zan. This is said clearly in the video as well. What happened before that was Greek Cypriots VS British Colonialists. There was no inter-communal conflict until you attacked us.


Bullshit again Piratis....But please keep going so more people can see where you are coming from...I hope Tpap is reading this and sees the damage you are doing to his ideals..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:09 pm

zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:This is the very first inter-communal conflict Zan. This is said clearly in the video as well. What happened before that was Greek Cypriots VS British Colonialists. There was no inter-communal conflict until you attacked us.


Bullshit again Piratis....But please keep going so more people can see where you are coming from...I hope Tpap is reading this and sees the damage you are doing to his ideals..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Zan, I give you facts, which include a video made not by us, but by your British friends. And all you can say in return is "bullshit"?

You can't even justify why it is "bullshit". You say it is "bullshit" just because you don't like it.

All the posts you make are like this. Either you copy paste articles or you just call whatever you don't like as "bullshit". You are not even able to construct an argument, let alone to provide any facts that support it.
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:22 pm

Those of us who lived through the start of the intercommunal conflict in the 50s remember how it was.

The GCs were put in curfew. A siren went off in Nicosia and we had half an hour to get home where we were forced to stay till next morning. Anyone found on the street could be shot.

Then one night, as we sat curfewed in the house, a few blocks from the Locmaci gate, a huge fire erupted. It was a GC owned timber business just north of Ermou street. That was the start for us. The routine from then one was curfew, guarded by TC auxiliary police while TC youths rioted through the area. The EOKA response was to advise us to set up a "civil guard" for protection. This involved storing heavy stuff on the terrace to drop on rioters. If this can be interpreted as EOKA turning against TCs then so be it. The fact is that TCs broght the fight to the GC areas under the eyes of the British who engineered the whole thing. In Omorfita one attack led to the death of dozens of GCs.

Those that talk about EOKA turning against the TCs obviously do not know, or do not want to know, the capabilities of EOKA. It was a small band of people, with no ability to manage a large scale urban conflict. Which explains why the conflict was brought to the cities and to neighborhood level. A ploy originated by the British to pressure EOKA into accepting a ceasefire, which it did. EOKA could not protect the GCs and it realised that if the attacks went on the GC population would be totally demoralised and turned against EOKA.
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:44 pm

Piratis wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:This is the very first inter-communal conflict Zan. This is said clearly in the video as well. What happened before that was Greek Cypriots VS British Colonialists. There was no inter-communal conflict until you attacked us.


Bullshit again Piratis....But please keep going so more people can see where you are coming from...I hope Tpap is reading this and sees the damage you are doing to his ideals..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Zan, I give you facts, which include a video made not by us, but by your British friends. And all you can say in return is "bullshit"?

You can't even justify why it is "bullshit". You say it is "bullshit" just because you don't like it.

All the posts you make are like this. Either you copy paste articles or you just call whatever you don't like as "bullshit". You are not even able to construct an argument, let alone to provide any facts that support it.



In 1878 Sir Garnet Wolseley was greeted by Church leaders who appealed for British assistance in achieving ENOSIS......Where is the fight for independence in that dear boy Even then your schools where teaching the Megali idea to Cypriots.....
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:49 pm

Nikitas wrote:Those of us who lived through the start of the intercommunal conflict in the 50s remember how it was.

The GCs were put in curfew. A siren went off in Nicosia and we had half an hour to get home where we were forced to stay till next morning. Anyone found on the street could be shot.

Then one night, as we sat curfewed in the house, a few blocks from the Locmaci gate, a huge fire erupted. It was a GC owned timber business just north of Ermou street. That was the start for us. The routine from then one was curfew, guarded by TC auxiliary police while TC youths rioted through the area. The EOKA response was to advise us to set up a "civil guard" for protection. This involved storing heavy stuff on the terrace to drop on rioters. If this can be interpreted as EOKA turning against TCs then so be it. The fact is that TCs broght the fight to the GC areas under the eyes of the British who engineered the whole thing. In Omorfita one attack led to the death of dozens of GCs.

Those that talk about EOKA turning against the TCs obviously do not know, or do not want to know, the capabilities of EOKA. It was a small band of people, with no ability to manage a large scale urban conflict. Which explains why the conflict was brought to the cities and to neighborhood level. A ploy originated by the British to pressure EOKA into accepting a ceasefire, which it did. EOKA could not protect the GCs and it realised that if the attacks went on the GC population would be totally demoralised and turned against EOKA.


The Megali idea...ENOSIS...Greek nationalism...All started before Turkish reciprocation's.....You taught hate from the moment the Ottomans started their downfall and instead of fighting for freedom, fought for ENOSIS. EOKA was the tool but what was instilled in the minds of GCS was to be more effective. Your best educated looked for it as well as the highly influential Church. Hell, the head of the Church, Makarios was head henchman. What the F**k did you expect from us. You took from the ordinary TC before he was even a Turk 1923.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:49 pm

You are confusing two unrelated matters, Megali Idea and Enosis. They are not identical.
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:50 pm

Nikitas wrote:You are confusing two unrelated matters, Megali Idea and Enosis. They are not identical.


Megali idea came from Greece and ENOSIS from the church...What is the difference???
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