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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:41 pm

miltiades wrote:Turkish Cypriots were murdered by G/C bloody extremists who detested the Turkish Cypriots and wanted nothing but the total extinction of the T/C people .One such individual was Nicos Sampson .
Likewise T/C extremists murdered in cold blood G/Cs because they too had hatred in their hearts and wanted the partition of our island.Evidence of extremism we see daily on this forum , rather than forget , forgive and move on we have amongst us extremists who dont give a shit about the future of this island as long as they can stick their chest out , fly their foreign bloody rug and betray Cyprus in the process.


You omitted to mention the Grey Wolves and TMT organised by Denktash in the '50's to annihilate GCs and TCs ... and to this day they persist in murdering innocent unarmed GCs.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:25 pm

Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:Turkish Cypriots were murdered by G/C bloody extremists who detested the Turkish Cypriots and wanted nothing but the total extinction of the T/C people .One such individual was Nicos Sampson .
Likewise T/C extremists murdered in cold blood G/Cs because they too had hatred in their hearts and wanted the partition of our island.Evidence of extremism we see daily on this forum , rather than forget , forgive and move on we have amongst us extremists who dont give a shit about the future of this island as long as they can stick their chest out , fly their foreign bloody rug and betray Cyprus in the process.


You omitted to mention the Grey Wolves and TMT organised by Denktash in the '50's to annihilate GCs and TCs ... and to this day they persist in murdering innocent unarmed GCs.

And what may I ask did I mean by T/C extremists ?
Let me assure you that the decent T/Cs abhor acts committed by the notorious Grey Wolves , and let me also categorically state that the overwhelming majority of T/Cs are peace loving , family orientated decent Cypriots who would like nothing more than to live and work side by side with their compatriots just as they did in the past , just as I did too sharing a dormitory with my little compatriots oblivious of detrimental differences .
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:31 pm

miltiades wrote:
Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:Turkish Cypriots were murdered by G/C bloody extremists who detested the Turkish Cypriots and wanted nothing but the total extinction of the T/C people .One such individual was Nicos Sampson .
Likewise T/C extremists murdered in cold blood G/Cs because they too had hatred in their hearts and wanted the partition of our island.Evidence of extremism we see daily on this forum , rather than forget , forgive and move on we have amongst us extremists who dont give a shit about the future of this island as long as they can stick their chest out , fly their foreign bloody rug and betray Cyprus in the process.


You omitted to mention the Grey Wolves and TMT organised by Denktash in the '50's to annihilate GCs and TCs ... and to this day they persist in murdering innocent unarmed GCs.

And what may I ask did I mean by T/C extremists ?
Let me assure you that the decent T/Cs abhor acts committed by the notorious Grey Wolves , and let me also categorically state that the overwhelming majority of T/Cs are peace loving , family orientated decent Cypriots who would like nothing more than to live and work side by side with their compatriots just as they did in the past , just as I did too sharing a dormitory with my little compatriots oblivious of detrimental differences .


Yes ... but you failed to mention they also murdered TCs ... which was the slant of this thread!

Miltiades ... WAKE UP! ... you are not sleeping in that dormitory in the '50's anymore.

Times have moved on ... and those TCs you slept with are now party to accepting the illegitimate occupation by Turkey, of 40% of our country!
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Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:12 pm

Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:Turkish Cypriots were murdered by G/C bloody extremists who detested the Turkish Cypriots and wanted nothing but the total extinction of the T/C people .One such individual was Nicos Sampson .
Likewise T/C extremists murdered in cold blood G/Cs because they too had hatred in their hearts and wanted the partition of our island.Evidence of extremism we see daily on this forum , rather than forget , forgive and move on we have amongst us extremists who dont give a shit about the future of this island as long as they can stick their chest out , fly their foreign bloody rug and betray Cyprus in the process.


You omitted to mention the Grey Wolves and TMT organised by Denktash in the '50's to annihilate GCs and TCs ... and to this day they persist in murdering innocent unarmed GCs.

And what may I ask did I mean by T/C extremists ?
Let me assure you that the decent T/Cs abhor acts committed by the notorious Grey Wolves , and let me also categorically state that the overwhelming majority of T/Cs are peace loving , family orientated decent Cypriots who would like nothing more than to live and work side by side with their compatriots just as they did in the past , just as I did too sharing a dormitory with my little compatriots oblivious of detrimental differences .


Yes ... but you failed to mention they also murdered TCs ... which was the slant of this thread!

Miltiades ... WAKE UP! ... you are not sleeping in that dormitory in the '50's anymore.

Times have moved on ... and those TCs you slept with are now party to accepting the illegitimate occupation by Turkey, of 40% of our country!

O , you know full well that my tolerance to stupidity is very low , as a 7 year old I shared a dormitory with other children , T/C kids too. Refrace your statement and remove the stupid comment you attributed to a 7 year old child OR I SWEAR I'M COMING AFTER YOU !!
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Postby Magnus » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:15 pm

With respect to Mr Arif and his loss, I thought this article was very biased, heavy on schmaltz and very thin on factual content, though I don't expect any better from Tabitha Morgan, who is an amateur journalist at best.

While I can see why Mr Arif holds the GCs responsible for his father's death, it would have been nice if the article mentioned any evidence to prove this. It would also have been good if Tabitha had bothered to ask Mr Arif his opinion on the current reunifications talks and perhaps done more to explain that the problem of the missing persons is one that deeply affects both sides.

She might even have wanted to point out the fact that there are approximately three times as many missing GCs as there are TCs, though that might have put a different slant on her article.

Here are some links to similar articles for anyone interested:

http://www.aol.co.nz/news/story/Greek-Cypriot-buries-remains-of-four-loved-ones-who-vanished-during-1974-invasion/741531/index.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6166560.stm

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/19/news/cyprus.php
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:26 pm

miltiades wrote:
Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:Turkish Cypriots were murdered by G/C bloody extremists who detested the Turkish Cypriots and wanted nothing but the total extinction of the T/C people .One such individual was Nicos Sampson .
Likewise T/C extremists murdered in cold blood G/Cs because they too had hatred in their hearts and wanted the partition of our island.Evidence of extremism we see daily on this forum , rather than forget , forgive and move on we have amongst us extremists who dont give a shit about the future of this island as long as they can stick their chest out , fly their foreign bloody rug and betray Cyprus in the process.


You omitted to mention the Grey Wolves and TMT organised by Denktash in the '50's to annihilate GCs and TCs ... and to this day they persist in murdering innocent unarmed GCs.

And what may I ask did I mean by T/C extremists ?
Let me assure you that the decent T/Cs abhor acts committed by the notorious Grey Wolves , and let me also categorically state that the overwhelming majority of T/Cs are peace loving , family orientated decent Cypriots who would like nothing more than to live and work side by side with their compatriots just as they did in the past , just as I did too sharing a dormitory with my little compatriots oblivious of detrimental differences .


Yes ... but you failed to mention they also murdered TCs ... which was the slant of this thread!

Miltiades ... WAKE UP! ... you are not sleeping in that dormitory in the '50's anymore.

Times have moved on ... and those TCs you slept with are now party to accepting the illegitimate occupation by Turkey, of 40% of our country!

O , you know full well that my tolerance to stupidity is very low , as a 7 year old I shared a dormitory with other children , T/C kids too. Refrace your statement and remove the stupid comment you attributed to a 7 year old child OR I SWEAR I'M COMING AFTER YOU !!


Yes leave the 40,000 Turkish troops alone Big Man ... and come after me because I only desire their removal, something you are afraid to confront!

Skewed priorities from a stewed pickle!

Don't ruffle my feathers Miltiades or I'll show you how adept I am with your catering equipment .... stopper your orifices! :P
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Postby humanist » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:31 pm

A TC friend of mine has told mfrom first hand experience that the Grey Woolves will to this day take ut any TC who wants true unification of the Island. Oracles I think you need to stop engaging with Miltiades it does your health no good darling. I have decoded to stop reading the posts by halil unless he has something to say as his own person.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:38 am

Sotos wrote:Today two more Greek Cypriots that were found in mass graves were buried. No report from the British about them :( Because Turks and British are partners. They both want to occupy parts of our island and keep their armies here.



Thousands and thousands of GCs and TCs live i the UK. Why not vice versa? You are being a tad selfish here. Tut, Tut, Tut.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:42 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:Obviously detailing one death, from one side is hardly conducive to laying anything to rest. :roll:

Did the GCs only lose mostly men, and only in 1974 as the article suggests ....

Greek Cypriots have their own missing, mostly men killed at the time of the Turkish invasion in 1974.


In a week effort towards credibility there is this one brief reference to what the GCs suffered ...

The stories of their grieving children, and of families pulled out of joint, are just as raw.


However it goes into great detail about this one TC man ... the father of the person who set up this report no less!

On 21 December 1963 Mustafa Arif, a senior officer at Nicosia prison, was admitted to hospital in what is today the Greek Cypriot side of the city to be treated for a heart condition....

Shortly after, Mustafa received a visit from his Greek Cypriot colleagues who urged him leave the hospital and to go with them in the prison van, to a safer place. He agreed to be driven away.


But please note:

No-one knows for sure what happened next


Going on to implicate the GCs in his death is ridiculous when he sounds like a prime target for the TMT.

The Turkish Cypriot civil administration came under TMT control especially after the inter-communal clashes that began in December 1963.

He sounds like he was a prime target for the TMT ......



Still in denial Oracle? There are many others who will not deny the murder of TCs.


.... so it seems there was just this one TC "murder" or is there something wrong with the article? Inconclusive from start to finish!

No-one knows for sure what happened next


.... although you and Zan seemed to have decided there could only be one conclusion to that!



Just one of many O. We dont decide anything. The bones do talk. (a la Scarpetta)


So long it is not just TCs that do the talking ....

Pleased you agree with me that this article is a non-entity through serious omissions .... and on GC losses!


There is no room to list all those murdered by either side. We all know that is what happened. Only you are in denial Oracle. According to you their are no G/GCs with TC blood on their hand.
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Postby zan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:30 am

Oracle wrote:Why is it a gaff to point out your inaccuracies, distortions and one-sided accusations?

Was this presented for us to give it the OK then Zan?

Because I am not your patsy, Mr. Mullah! :lol:


Sweet Stella......It is you that is making it up as you go along. It is you that will change the mind of the world and they will start to look at the truth and not what people like you have been feeding them all these years so onmce again, I thank you....

Please don't feel bad my GC cousins.....The truth will hurt but you will get over it.


Humanist is stoned again because Halil has nothing to do with this thread lover........ :lol: :lol: :lol:
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