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[Piratis]

Piratis have you realized that like it or not there 2 sides to every story depending which sideof the divide you sit, plus we do not have to accept your viewpoint for a solution as it would be forced and therefore not our free will just as you claim happened to GCs in 1960.

Our towns and villages do not fall under your will.

[Viewpoint]

There is nothing to hide about our desire for freedom. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. The ones who should be ashamed is you, who butchered Cypriots by the 100s and 1000s simply because we, like the rest of Greeks, wanted to be free from your oppressive rule and create a free state.

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

We had every right to revolt and seek our freedom from foreign empires, either you were the rulers or the British.
In the 1950s we revolted against the British, we didn't touch you. And yet, thinking that you are still our masters who can impose your rule over us, as if we were still your slaves, you attacked us again in 1958 with the aim to help the British to oppress our revolution and keep Cyprus enslaved.

And then in the conflicts that followed your attack of 1958, where you killed 100s of innocent GC people, you come here to pretend to be the innocent victim because you had losses as well, forgetting that it is you in fact who started the conflict.

I again repeat that I recognize your losses in that conflict. It is time you recognize our losses during that time as well and the fact that you started the conflict in 1958, and stop pretending to be the innocent victim that needed to be saved by a turkish invasion that killed 1000s of people (many times more than any side lost in the inter-communal conflict) and ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands.

In 1878 Sir garnet Wolseley was greeted by Church leaders who appealed for British assistance in achieving ENOSIS......Where is the fight for independence in that dear boy Even then your schools where teaching the Megali idea to Cypriots.....

Zan, when we fight for independence it doesn't mean that every neighborhood or every village or every island should become an independent country. We fight for the freedom and independence of the Greek nation as whole, from the Ottomans, British, Italians, Nazis and all other foreign rulers who occupied our lands.

Cypriots started their struggle for a free Greek nation along with all other Greeks. Not every territory was liberated at the same time. Rodos for example was liberated in 1948 and naturally became part of the free Greek state since the native people of Rodos have been Greeks for 1000s of years and they, like us, wanted to be part of a free Greek state.

Well you did not account for the TCs and their desire for survival, the fight against being pushed into a Greek state where we didnot want to be. We have and will always fight against your pressure to reduce us to just another minority as the rest of the world acknowledges we are not as they listen and support or right for a BBF with political equality, not something handed out to just any minority.

[Piratis]

There is nothing to hide about our desire for freedom. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. The ones who should be ashamed is you, who butchered Cypriots by the 100s and 1000s simply because we, like the rest of Greeks, wanted to be free from your oppressive rule and create a free state.

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

We had every right to revolt and seek our freedom from foreign empires, either you were the rulers or the British.
In the 1950s we revolted against the British, we didn't touch you. And yet, thinking that you are still our masters who can impose your rule over us, as if we were still your slaves, you attacked us again in 1958 with the aim to help the British to oppress our revolution and keep Cyprus enslaved.

And then in the conflicts that followed your attack of 1958, where you killed 100s of innocent GC people, you come here to pretend to be the innocent victim because you had losses as well, forgetting that it is you in fact who started the conflict.

I again repeat that I recognize your losses in that conflict. It is time you recognize our losses during that time as well and the fact that you started the conflict in 1958, and stop pretending to be the innocent victim that needed to be saved by a turkish invasion that killed 1000s of people (many times more than any side lost in the inter-communal conflict) and ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands.

In 1878 Sir garnet Wolseley was greeted by Church leaders who appealed for British assistance in achieving ENOSIS......Where is the fight for independence in that dear boy Even then your schools where teaching the Megali idea to Cypriots.....

Zan, when we fight for independence it doesn't mean that every neighborhood or every village or every island should become an independent country. We fight for the freedom and independence of the Greek nation as whole, from the Ottomans, British, Italians, Nazis and all other foreign rulers who occupied our lands.

Cypriots started their struggle for a free Greek nation along with all other Greeks. Not every territory was liberated at the same time. Rodos for example was liberated in 1948 and naturally became part of the free Greek state since the native people of Rodos have been Greeks for 1000s of years and they, like us, wanted to be part of a free Greek state.

I like the way you separate the words Greek and Cypriot to different parts of your crazy statement and hope we will not realise.....You are either Greek or Cypriot when it suits you....I love it...And so will those that read it!!!

No Zan, I am Limassolian, and Cypriot, and Greek, and European. Just like other Greeks are Cretan, Athenian, Pelloponisian etc.

[Piratis]

There is nothing to hide about our desire for freedom. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. The ones who should be ashamed is you, who butchered Cypriots by the 100s and 1000s simply because we, like the rest of Greeks, wanted to be free from your oppressive rule and create a free state.

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

We had every right to revolt and seek our freedom from foreign empires, either you were the rulers or the British.
In the 1950s we revolted against the British, we didn't touch you. And yet, thinking that you are still our masters who can impose your rule over us, as if we were still your slaves, you attacked us again in 1958 with the aim to help the British to oppress our revolution and keep Cyprus enslaved.

And then in the conflicts that followed your attack of 1958, where you killed 100s of innocent GC people, you come here to pretend to be the innocent victim because you had losses as well, forgetting that it is you in fact who started the conflict.

I again repeat that I recognize your losses in that conflict. It is time you recognize our losses during that time as well and the fact that you started the conflict in 1958, and stop pretending to be the innocent victim that needed to be saved by a turkish invasion that killed 1000s of people (many times more than any side lost in the inter-communal conflict) and ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands.

In 1878 Sir garnet Wolseley was greeted by Church leaders who appealed for British assistance in achieving ENOSIS......Where is the fight for independence in that dear boy Even then your schools where teaching the Megali idea to Cypriots.....

Zan, when we fight for independence it doesn't mean that every neighborhood or every village or every island should become an independent country. We fight for the freedom and independence of the Greek nation as whole, from the Ottomans, British, Italians, Nazis and all other foreign rulers who occupied our lands.

Cypriots started their struggle for a free Greek nation along with all other Greeks. Not every territory was liberated at the same time. Rodos for example was liberated in 1948 and naturally became part of the free Greek state since the native people of Rodos have been Greeks for 1000s of years and they, like us, wanted to be part of a free Greek state.

Well you did not account for the TCs and their desire for survival, the fight against being pushed into a Greek state where we didnot want to be. We have and will always fight against your pressure to reduce us to just another minority as the rest of the world acknowledges we are not as they listen and support or right for a BBF with political equality, not something handed out to just any minority.

You are just another minority. How arrogant of you to think otherwise. Give to our Greek minority in Turkey what you ask from us, and then come to have demands.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis have you realized that like it or not there 2 sides to every story depending which sideof the divide you sit, plus we do not have to accept your viewpoint for a solution as it would be forced and therefore not our free will just as you claim happened to GCs in 1960.

Our towns and villages do not fall under your will.

You are talking about another matter you cannot force us against our will and the world supports this fact thats why this "just another minority" is negotiating a BBF with political equality.

As for your towns and villages they are not just yours, they also belong to us.

[Viewpoint]

There is nothing to hide about our desire for freedom. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. The ones who should be ashamed is you, who butchered Cypriots by the 100s and 1000s simply because we, like the rest of Greeks, wanted to be free from your oppressive rule and create a free state.

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

We had every right to revolt and seek our freedom from foreign empires, either you were the rulers or the British.
In the 1950s we revolted against the British, we didn't touch you. And yet, thinking that you are still our masters who can impose your rule over us, as if we were still your slaves, you attacked us again in 1958 with the aim to help the British to oppress our revolution and keep Cyprus enslaved.

And then in the conflicts that followed your attack of 1958, where you killed 100s of innocent GC people, you come here to pretend to be the innocent victim because you had losses as well, forgetting that it is you in fact who started the conflict.

I again repeat that I recognize your losses in that conflict. It is time you recognize our losses during that time as well and the fact that you started the conflict in 1958, and stop pretending to be the innocent victim that needed to be saved by a turkish invasion that killed 1000s of people (many times more than any side lost in the inter-communal conflict) and ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands.

In 1878 Sir garnet Wolseley was greeted by Church leaders who appealed for British assistance in achieving ENOSIS......Where is the fight for independence in that dear boy Even then your schools where teaching the Megali idea to Cypriots.....

Zan, when we fight for independence it doesn't mean that every neighborhood or every village or every island should become an independent country. We fight for the freedom and independence of the Greek nation as whole, from the Ottomans, British, Italians, Nazis and all other foreign rulers who occupied our lands.

Cypriots started their struggle for a free Greek nation along with all other Greeks. Not every territory was liberated at the same time. Rodos for example was liberated in 1948 and naturally became part of the free Greek state since the native people of Rodos have been Greeks for 1000s of years and they, like us, wanted to be part of a free Greek state.

Well you did not account for the TCs and their desire for survival, the fight against being pushed into a Greek state where we didnot want to be. We have and will always fight against your pressure to reduce us to just another minority as the rest of the world acknowledges we are not as they listen and support or right for a BBF with political equality, not something handed out to just any minority.

You are just another minority. How arrogant of you to think otherwise. Give to our Greek minority in Turkey what you ask from us, and then come to have demands.

They can fight their own battles with Turkey and if the world supports them Im sure they to will get something in return but my demands are supported and thats why you have to negotiate.

[zan]

There is nothing to hide about our desire for freedom. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. The ones who should be ashamed is you, who butchered Cypriots by the 100s and 1000s simply because we, like the rest of Greeks, wanted to be free from your oppressive rule and create a free state.

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

We had every right to revolt and seek our freedom from foreign empires, either you were the rulers or the British.
In the 1950s we revolted against the British, we didn't touch you. And yet, thinking that you are still our masters who can impose your rule over us, as if we were still your slaves, you attacked us again in 1958 with the aim to help the British to oppress our revolution and keep Cyprus enslaved.

And then in the conflicts that followed your attack of 1958, where you killed 100s of innocent GC people, you come here to pretend to be the innocent victim because you had losses as well, forgetting that it is you in fact who started the conflict.

I again repeat that I recognize your losses in that conflict. It is time you recognize our losses during that time as well and the fact that you started the conflict in 1958, and stop pretending to be the innocent victim that needed to be saved by a turkish invasion that killed 1000s of people (many times more than any side lost in the inter-communal conflict) and ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands.

In 1878 Sir garnet Wolseley was greeted by Church leaders who appealed for British assistance in achieving ENOSIS......Where is the fight for independence in that dear boy Even then your schools where teaching the Megali idea to Cypriots.....

Zan, when we fight for independence it doesn't mean that every neighborhood or every village or every island should become an independent country. We fight for the freedom and independence of the Greek nation as whole, from the Ottomans, British, Italians, Nazis and all other foreign rulers who occupied our lands.

Cypriots started their struggle for a free Greek nation along with all other Greeks. Not every territory was liberated at the same time. Rodos for example was liberated in 1948 and naturally became part of the free Greek state since the native people of Rodos have been Greeks for 1000s of years and they, like us, wanted to be part of a free Greek state.

Well you did not account for the TCs and their desire for survival, the fight against being pushed into a Greek state where we didnot want to be. We have and will always fight against your pressure to reduce us to just another minority as the rest of the world acknowledges we are not as they listen and support or right for a BBF with political equality, not something handed out to just any minority.

You are just another minority. How arrogant of you to think otherwise. Give to our Greek minority in Turkey what you ask from us, and then come to have demands.

We were your rulers you arrogant shit......

[Oracle]

... We have and will always fight against your pressure to reduce us to just another minority as the rest of the world acknowledges we are not as they listen and support or right for a BBF with political equality, not something handed out to just any minority.

VP .. do you fight the Turks quite so hard to complain that you do not want them to reduce you to just any minority in the "north"?

Or is it OK for mainland Turks to make you second class minority citizens compared to its fresh babies the Anatolian Settlers?

[Oracle]

We were your rulers you arrogant shit...... 8)

The voice of the Turk ....

[Piratis]

Piratis have you realized that like it or not there 2 sides to every story depending which sideof the divide you sit, plus we do not have to accept your viewpoint for a solution as it would be forced and therefore not our free will just as you claim happened to GCs in 1960.

Our towns and villages do not fall under your will.

You are talking about another matter you cannot force us against our will and the world supports this fact thats why this "just another minority" is negotiating a BBF with political equality.

As for your towns and villages they are not just yours, they also belong to us.

What the world recognizes is that you are barbarians with big guns that show no respect to UN resolutions that demand the respect of the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus, and that we will therefore have to make compromises to you (or so they think, but it is always entirely up to us if we will choose to do so. Nobody obligates us).

Our towns and villages belong to us 5 times more. How can demand to rule Kerynia for example? Based on what? (other than the fact that you are barbarians with big guns)