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Postby psycho » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:00 pm

Z4 wrote:Scum bastard's like this do the English reputation no good what-so-ever. These 'chuffing' chavs should get locked up for life and never released into normal life again


Z4, unfortunately the "Scum Bastards" only get a slap on the wrist and 1 year suspended sentence because their social worker has convinced the judge that they've had a hard life and did not have a Play Station 3 to play on!!
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Postby Z4 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:08 pm

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Z4 wrote:Scum bastard's like this do the English reputation no good what-so-ever. These 'chuffing' chavs should get locked up for life and never released into normal life again


Z4, unfortunately the "Scum Bastards" only get a slap on the wrist and 1 year suspended sentence because their social worker has convinced the judge that they've had a hard life and did not have a Play Station 3 to play on!!


We will see, but the law in UK is crap so you are probably right
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Re: Bad Brits!..... Shame on You! .....

Postby Oracle » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:08 pm

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Oracle wrote:I find this case particularly disgusting and I sympathise with the parents whose pain will never end :(

I can't help putting myself in the place of the mother of the 17 year old Cypriot boy who was apparently deliberately pursued and mowed down by an older British driver, on his holiday ... in Cyprus .... to have a good time and exercising that "right", by killing off the young natives .... and I cannot help these feelings ..... :(

The "murderous" older man, now jailed for "manslaughter"; and his alleged accomplices, are still alive, who in their vacuous ignorant, selfish ill-educated conditions, are "living" in the UK ... oblivious? indifferent? uncaring? ... to the suffering they have caused ... the young life they were party to ending.

Are the Cypriots viewed as dispensable holiday pastimes by our paying guests?

Come and face justice you scourge of humanity, British brazen bagatelles .... IMHO

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 652994.ece


I find it strange that you have an opinion on this Oracle given that it is still undergoing judicial proceedings. I'd previously got the impression that you did not make such judgements without hearing both sides of a story and seeing it through it's conclusion in courts of law?


I have an "opinion" on everything ... however ....

I don't pass judgements when only one side has come on the forum to present their one-sided view.

This case has had both sides presented ... not by the individuals but outsiders from both side of the case ... British and Cypriot! The link is to a popular UK paper! It has gone through courts!

Are you denying a 17 year old boy was killed by being hit by a car?

Are you denying a holidaying Brit (worse for drink?) was driving the car?

That person has already been convicted ..... and put away for 15 years ....

What they have done is truly disgusting ... but I think you said you are not a mother; so perhaps your properties and run-ins with estate agents/developers are more important ... :roll:
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Postby psycho » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:13 pm

Z4 wrote:
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Z4 wrote:Scum bastard's like this do the English reputation no good what-so-ever. These 'chuffing' chavs should get locked up for life and never released into normal life again


Z4, unfortunately the "Scum Bastards" only get a slap on the wrist and 1 year suspended sentence because their social worker has convinced the judge that they've had a hard life and did not have a Play Station 3 to play on!!


We will see, but the law in UK is crap so you are probably right

Z4 it's not just the Law!!
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Re: Bad Brits!..... Shame on You! .....

Postby Feisty » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:32 am

Z4 wrote:
Feisty wrote:
Oracle wrote:I find this case particularly disgusting and I sympathise with the parents whose pain will never end :(

I can't help putting myself in the place of the mother of the 17 year old Cypriot boy who was apparently deliberately pursued and mowed down by an older British driver, on his holiday ... in Cyprus .... to have a good time and exercising that "right", by killing off the young natives .... and I cannot help these feelings ..... :(

The "murderous" older man, now jailed for "manslaughter"; and his alleged accomplices, are still alive, who in their vacuous ignorant, selfish ill-educated conditions, are "living" in the UK ... oblivious? indifferent? uncaring? ... to the suffering they have caused ... the young life they were party to ending.

Are the Cypriots viewed as dispensable holiday pastimes by our paying guests?

Come and face justice you scourge of humanity, British brazen bagatelles .... IMHO

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 652994.ece


I find it strange that you have an opinion on this Oracle given that it is still undergoing judicial proceedings. I'd previously got the impression that you did not make such judgements without hearing both sides of a story and seeing it through it's conclusion in courts of law?


But Feisty, someone was cruelly murdered so for this one occasion I am on O's side


Someone was not cruelly murdered Z4, you need to read what's in front of you more carefully.
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Re: Bad Brits!..... Shame on You! .....

Postby Z4 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:36 am

Feisty wrote:
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Feisty wrote:
Oracle wrote:I find this case particularly disgusting and I sympathise with the parents whose pain will never end :(

I can't help putting myself in the place of the mother of the 17 year old Cypriot boy who was apparently deliberately pursued and mowed down by an older British driver, on his holiday ... in Cyprus .... to have a good time and exercising that "right", by killing off the young natives .... and I cannot help these feelings ..... :(

The "murderous" older man, now jailed for "manslaughter"; and his alleged accomplices, are still alive, who in their vacuous ignorant, selfish ill-educated conditions, are "living" in the UK ... oblivious? indifferent? uncaring? ... to the suffering they have caused ... the young life they were party to ending.

Are the Cypriots viewed as dispensable holiday pastimes by our paying guests?

Come and face justice you scourge of humanity, British brazen bagatelles .... IMHO

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 652994.ece


I find it strange that you have an opinion on this Oracle given that it is still undergoing judicial proceedings. I'd previously got the impression that you did not make such judgements without hearing both sides of a story and seeing it through it's conclusion in courts of law?


But Feisty, someone was cruelly murdered so for this one occasion I am on O's side


Someone was not cruelly murdered Z4, you need to read what's in front of you more carefully.


Someone was killed Feisty, this ain't good is it. Their life was cruelly taken away.
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Postby Feisty » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:40 am

Oracle wrote:
Feisty wrote:
Oracle wrote:I find this case particularly disgusting and I sympathise with the parents whose pain will never end :(

I can't help putting myself in the place of the mother of the 17 year old Cypriot boy who was apparently deliberately pursued and mowed down by an older British driver, on his holiday ... in Cyprus .... to have a good time and exercising that "right", by killing off the young natives .... and I cannot help these feelings ..... :(

The "murderous" older man, now jailed for "manslaughter"; and his alleged accomplices, are still alive, who in their vacuous ignorant, selfish ill-educated conditions, are "living" in the UK ... oblivious? indifferent? uncaring? ... to the suffering they have caused ... the young life they were party to ending.

Are the Cypriots viewed as dispensable holiday pastimes by our paying guests?

Come and face justice you scourge of humanity, British brazen bagatelles .... IMHO

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 652994.ece


I find it strange that you have an opinion on this Oracle given that it is still undergoing judicial proceedings. I'd previously got the impression that you did not make such judgements without hearing both sides of a story and seeing it through it's conclusion in courts of law?


I have an "opinion" on everything ... however ....

I don't pass judgements when only one side has come on the forum to present their one-sided view.

This case has had both sides presented ... not by the individuals but outsiders from both side of the case ... British and Cypriot! The link is to a popular UK paper! It has gone through courts!

Are you denying a 17 year old boy was killed by being hit by a car?

Are you denying a holidaying Brit (worse for drink?) was driving the car?

That person has already been convicted ..... and put away for 15 years ....

What they have done is truly disgusting ... but I think you said you are not a mother; so perhaps your properties and run-ins with estate agents/developers are more important ... :roll:


You must learn not to speak for other people Oracle but actually yes to a point you are right, what is going on in my life is far more important to me than anyone else's.
The case has not gone through the courts at all, it has been referred to the High Court.
And yes, as it happens, I am denying that a holidaying Brit (worse for drink) was driving the car, according to the article you posted.
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Re: Bad Brits!..... Shame on You! .....

Postby Feisty » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:47 am

Z4 wrote:
Feisty wrote:
Z4 wrote:
Feisty wrote:
Oracle wrote:I find this case particularly disgusting and I sympathise with the parents whose pain will never end :(

I can't help putting myself in the place of the mother of the 17 year old Cypriot boy who was apparently deliberately pursued and mowed down by an older British driver, on his holiday ... in Cyprus .... to have a good time and exercising that "right", by killing off the young natives .... and I cannot help these feelings ..... :(

The "murderous" older man, now jailed for "manslaughter"; and his alleged accomplices, are still alive, who in their vacuous ignorant, selfish ill-educated conditions, are "living" in the UK ... oblivious? indifferent? uncaring? ... to the suffering they have caused ... the young life they were party to ending.

Are the Cypriots viewed as dispensable holiday pastimes by our paying guests?

Come and face justice you scourge of humanity, British brazen bagatelles .... IMHO

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 652994.ece


I find it strange that you have an opinion on this Oracle given that it is still undergoing judicial proceedings. I'd previously got the impression that you did not make such judgements without hearing both sides of a story and seeing it through it's conclusion in courts of law?


But Feisty, someone was cruelly murdered so for this one occasion I am on O's side


Someone was not cruelly murdered Z4, you need to read what's in front of you more carefully.


Someone was killed Feisty, this ain't good is it. Their life was cruelly taken away.

They were indeed Z4 and the perpetrator of that crime has been convicted and sentenced for it. These two people were merely passengers in the car and the first court aquitted them and they were, once again, advised by their lawyer not to attend the appeal and this process is now going through the court system.
Whilst I am not trying to defend them, neither am I, or anyone else apart from the courts who hear the evidence in any position to say they are guilty of anything yet. They have been convicted in their absence without the opportunity (as advised by their lawyer) to give evidence on their own behalf. Some may believe this is a Cypriot violation of human rights. The case has been adjourned to decide whether the trial in Cyprus was fair and in compliance with the Human Rights Act.
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Re: Bad Brits!..... Shame on You! .....

Postby Z4 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:54 am

Feisty wrote:
Z4 wrote:
Feisty wrote:
Z4 wrote:
Feisty wrote:
Oracle wrote:I find this case particularly disgusting and I sympathise with the parents whose pain will never end :(

I can't help putting myself in the place of the mother of the 17 year old Cypriot boy who was apparently deliberately pursued and mowed down by an older British driver, on his holiday ... in Cyprus .... to have a good time and exercising that "right", by killing off the young natives .... and I cannot help these feelings ..... :(

The "murderous" older man, now jailed for "manslaughter"; and his alleged accomplices, are still alive, who in their vacuous ignorant, selfish ill-educated conditions, are "living" in the UK ... oblivious? indifferent? uncaring? ... to the suffering they have caused ... the young life they were party to ending.

Are the Cypriots viewed as dispensable holiday pastimes by our paying guests?

Come and face justice you scourge of humanity, British brazen bagatelles .... IMHO

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 652994.ece


I find it strange that you have an opinion on this Oracle given that it is still undergoing judicial proceedings. I'd previously got the impression that you did not make such judgements without hearing both sides of a story and seeing it through it's conclusion in courts of law?


But Feisty, someone was cruelly murdered so for this one occasion I am on O's side


Someone was not cruelly murdered Z4, you need to read what's in front of you more carefully.


Someone was killed Feisty, this ain't good is it. Their life was cruelly taken away.

They were indeed Z4 and the perpetrator of that crime has been convicted and sentenced for it. These two people were merely passengers in the car and the first court aquitted them and they were, once again, advised by their lawyer not to attend the appeal and this process is now going through the court system.
Whilst I am not trying to defend them, neither am I, or anyone else apart from the courts who hear the evidence in any position to say they are guilty of anything yet. They have been convicted in their absence without the opportunity (as advised by their lawyer) to give evidence on their own behalf. Some may believe this is a Cypriot violation of human rights. The case has been adjourned to decide whether the trial in Cyprus was fair and in compliance with the Human Rights Act.


I think we should let the Judge decide on this one
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Postby Feisty » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:56 am

Exactly.
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