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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Cem » Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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BC Numismatics wrote:Cem,
The British were actually the best administrators.You're forgetting one thing - the British were the first colonial power to stamp out the slave trade.

The French still had slavery in their colonies right up until the 1950's.

It goes to prove that YOU ARE a scummy Turk - dumb as well as thick!

What a wanker!

Aidan.


What is it with you and the British, the CW and the Queen? :?

Do you also like sheep? :lol:


Have you noticed how his vocabulary is rather limited to a mere few words (he thinks) abusive.

Paphitis, I am not the only to find how retarded his moronic remarks are.

Just look below.

See, what even a tree in Cyprus would say to Her Majesty's Neanderthal C.W representative, Sir Butt-Cephaloid Rhumatismatic Aidan..

particularly when he hopeless try to promote brit-shit supremacy and C.W

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I still can not for the life of me understand his fixation on the CW, British and Queen! Makes me even more convinced that Kiwis are weird! :?

Aidan, how old are you?


First, he associate me with Pope Benedict he thinks is a nazi....so that makes me a nazi (over what ??)
Then, he calls me a "subhuman"...untermenschen, the term itself coined with nazis in describing jewish people and even more.. homosexuals... as well...
He also called me , "faggot"...
Ladies and gentlemen, applauses for such a high level of consistency...
Moreover, the said Pope was himself called by many turks as nazi over remarks about Turkey's unsuitability as EU member..

Every since I joined this forum, I only attempted to ridicule posts and remarks that I have found excessive...trying to avoid as much as I can the use of f.... words and personal abuses...
But I might think of making an exception for this one...
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Postby BC Numismatics » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:57 pm

Cem,
You have a cheek to ramble on about how brutal the British were in Cyprus.There wouldn't even be a country called Cyprus if it hadn't been for the British.The Ottomans' governors were far more brutal than the British ever were.

You need to go & do some homework & think before you open your mouth.

For starters,here's a link to the British Commonwealth's official website to help you educate why the British Commonwealth exists,& why it is so relevant; http://www.thecommonwealth.org .

Aidan.
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:05 pm

Our Dear Aidan

Even though some here find the language in some of your posts offensive and some of your posts and views curious may I just say that in my considered opinion you have every right to say what you say even when you called me a wanker the other night.

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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:07 pm

All the time the British represented a 'civilised' people. Had you studied your own history, you would have been aware of the brutality they dished out to the Cypriots civilians in searching for the 'EOKA' shooters.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:42 pm

Deniz,
EOKA weren't freedom fighters like the Ulster Volunteer Force were.They were terrorists like Sinn Fein/I.R.A. were (& still are!).

The Turks were involved in slaughtering their subject peoples even as late as the 1820's when the Greeks revolted to establish an independent Greece.The Turks are still treating the Kurds brutally in the same way that Saddam Hussein treated both the Kurds & the Marsh Arabs of southern Iraq.

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Postby Oracle » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:47 pm

BC Numismatics wrote:Deniz,
EOKA weren't freedom fighters like the Ulster Volunteer Force were.They were terrorists like Sinn Fein/I.R.A. were (& still are!).

The Turks were involved in slaughtering their subject peoples even as late as the 1820's when the Greeks revolted to establish an independent Greece.The Turks are still treating the Kurds brutally in the same way that Saddam Hussein treated both the Kurds & the Marsh Arabs of southern Iraq.

Aidan.


One simple correction ... :wink:

EOKA were Freedom Fighters, not terrorists!
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:47 pm

BC Numismatics wrote:Deniz,
EOKA weren't freedom fighters like the Ulster Volunteer Force were.They were terrorists like Sinn Fein/I.R.A. were (& still are!).

The Turks were involved in slaughtering their subject peoples even as late as the 1820's when the Greeks revolted to establish an independent Greece.The Turks are still treating the Kurds brutally in the same way that Saddam Hussein treated both the Kurds & the Marsh Arabs of southern Iraq.

Aidan.



Tell me something I donrt know. Rebels and traitors were always dealt in that way by many other states including the Ottomans.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:50 pm

In the early hours of 1st April 1955 the silence of the slavery of Cyprus which lasted for eight centuries was interrupted by the explosions of bombs planted by the EOKA fighters. Those explosions echoed the desperate voice of Cyprus which no in a dynamic way demanded its freedom from the Colonial Government - a demand which was in compliance with the declaration of Human Rights and the self-determination of peoples that followed the Second World War, as well as with the British Governments promises to offer Cyprus to Greece during the First World War.
The EOKA struggle, which started on April 1st 1955 and continued until Februay 1959, was headed by the political leader, Archbishop Makarios III and by the military leader George Grivas Dhigenis. This struggle was the culmination of a long peaceful struggle of the Cypriot people who in vain were demanding through written notices, talks and diplomatic communications their self-determination. The negative attitude of the British Government was as disappointing as it was provocative in so far as the British Government by their own behaviour had created expectations of freedom in the people of Cyprus by calling upon them to join the British Army during the Second World War in order to fight from freedom, a call which by implication also included the freedom of Cyprus.

Following the failure of the talks and the refusal of the Colonial Government to accept a petition of the Cyprus Ethnarchy Council which demanded the holding of a referendum that would give the opportunity to the Cypriot people to express its political wish, the Ethnarchy Council itself proceeded with the organization of such a referendum on 15th January 1950. The referendum results confirmed the desire of the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people for the union of Cyprus with Greece.

The British Government refused to accept the Referendum results conveyed to London by a Committee specially set up for this purpose and ignored completely its conclusions. On the contrary declarations by high-ranking British Officials, like that of the Prime Minister Anthony Eden in 1953 which stated that as far as Britain was concerned the Cyprus issue (meaning the Union of Cyprus with Greece) was a "closed" matter and also that of Henry Hopkinson, Under-Secretary for the Colonies, in the House of Commons in 1954 stating that Great Britain would "never" give up Cyprus, constituted a blatant retraction on earlier British promises given during the two World Wars.

The British Colonial policy left no other option to the Cypriot people but to resort to an armed struggle. Basically, Cypriots are a peace-loving people, inexperienced in warfare. The armed forces at their disposal were minimal compared to the military might of the Colonial government. Consequently, the EOKA struggle was limited to guerilla warfare and to passive resistance.

For four years the people of Cyprus, and especially the young, fought with bravery, self-sacrifice and heroism. Neither the superior enemy, nor the gallows, the inhuman tortures inflicted on the freedom fighters, the detention in concentration camps without trial, the massive taxation, the blowing up of premises, or the bribery attempts, were able to shake the fighting spirit and conviction of the people.

The EOKA struggle ended in 1959 with the signing of the Zurich and London Agreements by which Cyprus was declared in Independent Republic, member of the United Nations. Unfortunately certain provisions of the Agreements were undemocratic and violated human rights. Consequantly the republic of Cyprus from the very beginning had to face administrative and other difficulties. In 1974 Turkey, using as a pretext the coup against the lawful Government, invaded the Republic of Cyprus occupying since then 37% of its territory. In the occupied area Turkey has been systematically endeavouring to alter the demographic composition of the population and to destroy its cultural tradition.

Nineteen ninety five marks the 40th anniversary of EOKA, the Cyprus Liberation Struggle. This anniversary revives memories of the EOKA struggle which gave independence to Cyprus and at the same time offers t the people of Cyprus the opportunity to pay due tribute and gratitude to all those who heroically gave their lives for freedom.

Text: Michalakis Maratheftis
Source: Department of Postal Services, Republic of Cyprus.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:51 pm

F.A.O> ........>>>>..... AIDAN

In the early hours of 1st April 1955 the silence of the slavery of Cyprus which lasted for eight centuries was interrupted by the explosions of bombs planted by the EOKA fighters. Those explosions echoed the desperate voice of Cyprus which no in a dynamic way demanded its freedom from the Colonial Government - a demand which was in compliance with the declaration of Human Rights and the self-determination of peoples that followed the Second World War, as well as with the British Governments promises to offer Cyprus to Greece during the First World War.
The EOKA struggle, which started on April 1st 1955 and continued until Februay 1959, was headed by the political leader, Archbishop Makarios III and by the military leader George Grivas Dhigenis. This struggle was the culmination of a long peaceful struggle of the Cypriot people who in vain were demanding through written notices, talks and diplomatic communications their self-determination. The negative attitude of the British Government was as disappointing as it was provocative in so far as the British Government by their own behaviour had created expectations of freedom in the people of Cyprus by calling upon them to join the British Army during the Second World War in order to fight from freedom, a call which by implication also included the freedom of Cyprus.

Following the failure of the talks and the refusal of the Colonial Government to accept a petition of the Cyprus Ethnarchy Council which demanded the holding of a referendum that would give the opportunity to the Cypriot people to express its political wish, the Ethnarchy Council itself proceeded with the organization of such a referendum on 15th January 1950. The referendum results confirmed the desire of the overwhelming majority of the Cypriot people for the union of Cyprus with Greece.

The British Government refused to accept the Referendum results conveyed to London by a Committee specially set up for this purpose and ignored completely its conclusions. On the contrary declarations by high-ranking British Officials, like that of the Prime Minister Anthony Eden in 1953 which stated that as far as Britain was concerned the Cyprus issue (meaning the Union of Cyprus with Greece) was a "closed" matter and also that of Henry Hopkinson, Under-Secretary for the Colonies, in the House of Commons in 1954 stating that Great Britain would "never" give up Cyprus, constituted a blatant retraction on earlier British promises given during the two World Wars.

The British Colonial policy left no other option to the Cypriot people but to resort to an armed struggle. Basically, Cypriots are a peace-loving people, inexperienced in warfare. The armed forces at their disposal were minimal compared to the military might of the Colonial government. Consequently, the EOKA struggle was limited to guerilla warfare and to passive resistance.

For four years the people of Cyprus, and especially the young, fought with bravery, self-sacrifice and heroism. Neither the superior enemy, nor the gallows, the inhuman tortures inflicted on the freedom fighters, the detention in concentration camps without trial, the massive taxation, the blowing up of premises, or the bribery attempts, were able to shake the fighting spirit and conviction of the people.

The EOKA struggle ended in 1959 with the signing of the Zurich and London Agreements by which Cyprus was declared in Independent Republic, member of the United Nations. Unfortunately certain provisions of the Agreements were undemocratic and violated human rights. Consequantly the republic of Cyprus from the very beginning had to face administrative and other difficulties. In 1974 Turkey, using as a pretext the coup against the lawful Government, invaded the Republic of Cyprus occupying since then 37% of its territory. In the occupied area Turkey has been systematically endeavouring to alter the demographic composition of the population and to destroy its cultural tradition.

Nineteen ninety five marks the 40th anniversary of EOKA, the Cyprus Liberation Struggle. This anniversary revives memories of the EOKA struggle which gave independence to Cyprus and at the same time offers t the people of Cyprus the opportunity to pay due tribute and gratitude to all those who heroically gave their lives for freedom.

Text: Michalakis Maratheftis
Source: Department of Postal Services, Republic of Cyprus.
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Postby humanist » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:56 pm

nice piece of work there, thanks Oracles ;)
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