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Postby negotiator » Mon May 16, 2005 1:34 am

Ok Turkish cypriots occupied empty properties. But did the same not happen with the Greek Cyptiots occupying turkish properties. Furthermore was there not re issuing of land after 74 by the government if you had property on a side that you could not access for both sides!
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Postby gabaston » Mon May 16, 2005 1:49 am

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on the tc side, tc's were allocated points in accordance with the land they left behind eg one plot of land left on the gc side = x number of points, 2 plots = 2x number of points.

Then tc's could exchange their allocated points for land, and reliquish all rights to the plot left in the south.

Personally, i still have old title deeds in the south, and now trnc title deeds in the north. I could if i wished legally sell both and make a fat fortune. The plot in the south is actually worth three times the north plot even considering expected readjustment values after a settlement, however i would rather live in peace in Cyprus, than sell both and be a millionaire in Britain or Australia, or USA.

i must be bloody mad.
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Postby gabaston » Mon May 16, 2005 1:56 am

oh by the way


i dont know what system they use in the south..
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Postby gabaston » Mon May 16, 2005 2:13 am

oh yeah
and the difference btween the "ethnic cleansings" was
you were left with a twenty minute drive to safety escape route, after prior warning had been given, three days in advance.

we however would had to survive an unnanounced first wave of violence and battle through Eoka to get to a beach, then we would have had a forty mile swim, that is if we didnt get picked of by the coast guard, whilst swimming with our children on our backs.

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Postby -mikkie2- » Mon May 16, 2005 2:18 am

Turkish Cypriot property in the south is still owned by the Turkish Cypriots. THe original title deeds are still valid. There was no points system or exchange. The simple fact that suddenly we had 200000 refugees to accomodate meant that the government had little option but to house the refugees in houses owned by TC's. The TC land is under the protection of the Custodian of Turkish Cypriot Properties.

The points and exchange system in the north is a unilateral measure and it effectively userps the property rights of the refugees. The Turks are now busy building and selling our land to the highest bidders. Never before have I seen a country being systematically sold out than in northern Cyprus. This is a continuation of the cruelty that Turkey continues to perpertrate in Cyprus. I hope Turkey pays a price for what she has done and continues to do in Cyprus.
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Postby negotiator » Mon May 16, 2005 2:22 am

Please quote fact and truths not myths hearsay gossip and Propaganda! When you have that come back and have a proper civilised discussion!
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Postby Piratis » Mon May 16, 2005 2:22 am

The difference is that the ethnic cleansing that you performed against GCs is a fact, where there was no ethnic cleansing against TCs (When did the TCs swim with their children on their back etc? You have mixed up facts with fiction my friend)
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Postby gabaston » Mon May 16, 2005 2:22 am

mikkie 2

well im quite happy to pay the price for the land i have been allocated in the north with what i leave in the south, which as ive said is three times the value.

what say you sir?
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Postby gabaston » Mon May 16, 2005 2:27 am

and the reason it never happened piratis was the turkish army...................................



call that fact fiction story novel dream what u like

do you want the Makarios and Sampson quotes relating to that era?
their quotes were broadcast..repeat .broadcast to the world. Do you not believe your own leader now?
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Postby negotiator » Mon May 16, 2005 2:28 am

Well I know various people that did swim for the lives that are thankfully still alive to tell the tale. If the so call Genocide did occur then why were war crimes not bought against the perpertration under the Warsaw Convention. Could it possibly be the fact that there was either no such thing or the killings were equal on both side under the awful fact of WAR. That occur in order to SAVE the lives of those that were being persecuted?
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