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[turkcyp]

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[Anglo]

I am here to read but my head is not spinning. It's not a surprise that Turkey will have to bail out the TRNC on the property issue, that's what would have happened under the A-plan as we all know.

What? Are you living in dream land? Who do you think was going to compensate the GC's under the Annan plan? It was the GC's themselves! Turkey was obliged to pay ZERO regarding the property issue.

The UK was going to pay 31 million Euros and Turkey was going to be supported by the world bank

[-mikkie2-]

I am here to read but my head is not spinning. It's not a surprise that Turkey will have to bail out the TRNC on the property issue, that's what would have happened under the A-plan as we all know.

What? Are you living in dream land? Who do you think was going to compensate the GC's under the Annan plan? It was the GC's themselves! Turkey was obliged to pay ZERO regarding the property issue.

The UK was going to pay 31 million Euros and Turkey was going to be supported by the world bank

Have you absolutely ANY idea how much the property in the north is worth? Any idea whatsoever? For the past 18months, the amount of money being made on property transactions alone has exceeded 2 BILLION DOLLARS on just a fraction of Greek Cypriot property. The total value of property in the north is worth tens of billions. You think Turkey is prepared to pay this amount of money on the TC's behalf? NO WAY! The donors conference pledged $700million at most! A drop in the ocean!

I suggest you do a bit more research!

[-mikkie2-]

Critical element is not being tied to other measure like direct trade. The whole aim of GC side is to separate the issues let the money come to north, so that they can say we are helping TCs but dodge the main issue which is economic isolation itself, like not providing direct flights to north for economic advancement,

Turkcyp,

The measures were initially not tied. Why were they then subsequently linked? Because certain EU members were pandering to Turkey.

It is clear that the north needs money to improve infrastructure. That is what this money is for. Why should it be linked to 'direct trade'?

Regarding pensions and social security, I seem to remember that the RoC was telling GC employers to register ALL their TC employees with the relevant departments. It was also encouraging TC's to do this. One of the main reasosn was so as to stop exploitation of TC labour by unscrupulous GC employers. This would also mean that they would benefit from social security arrangements and would also benefit by being entitled to a state pension. Now, what I want to know is to whome do the TC's pay taxes? Do they get taxed by the GC's or do they get taxed by the 'trnc'? Or has the RoC waived income tax payments for TC's that work in the south?[/quote]

[magikthrill]

First of all, sorry about your relative's wife. Do you know if there was anything special about their case? I mean maybe they had some special treatment that wasn't covered with the free healtcare provided? Do you know any other TCs who got "free healthcare" and got billed afterwards recently? I'll be disgusted if this turns out to be true in large scale.

metecyp

it seems to me like you are already disgusted with free healthcare being provided. you are just looking for a viable excuse to be disgusted so your point can actually make sense.

again, free health care is not a little issue. don't forget that this money comes from GCs, the same GCs whose houses are currently under Turkish occupation.

If health care bothers you so much then don't accept it.

[magikthrill]

My idea is this why should TRNC do that that? If I was the government in TRNC I would not do it. Construction sector in TRNC is the only sector that provides economic growth right now. Why would we kill a sector like that?

yes just like the TCs seem to be doing everything in their power to not return the GC land back to their entitled owners.

if the TRNC was int'ly recognized with economic advancement then why would the TCs EVER care to return the land back to the GCs? There would be no reason to find a solution cause for TCs the problem would be solved. Recognized partition and their own state.

[turkcyp]

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[Kifeas]

Measures were tied up by the UK because they know that if they separate the issues there is no way RoC would allow the direct trade and direct flight issues to go through alone, but would still have the upper hand in claiming that “Look we are helping TCs.” (even though I still do not understand how RoC are helping us. The funds are coming from EU anyway.)

The funds would have never been authorised to the TC community had the RoC not entered the E.U. with all it's territory (entire Cyprus) and all its citizens. (TCs included)

The RoC (free areas) is a net (positive) contributor to the E.U.

[metecyp]

metecyp

it seems to me like you are already disgusted with free healthcare being provided. you are just looking for a viable excuse to be disgusted so your point can actually make sense.

No, I'm not disgusted with free healthcare provided by RoC. I think it's a positive step and it's good overall for the island. What I find disgusting is the comments made by GCs about free healthcare. We are constantly being reminded of it. This is the only voluntary good thing the RoC did for TCs but we listen so much crap for it. That's what gets me. If you're going to do something good, do it, no need to brag about it or bring it up in every discussion as if it's the greatest deal of life.

[turkcyp]

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