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[zan]

No!! Like this......Just before the massacre!!

[Tim Drayton]

For the flag how about the dove of peace falling to earth after being shot?
and in greek and turkish the words "ïf you dont like it here" ?
The words to the National anthem should be in English - its the universal language of the world of business, finance, Airlines etc..And also the most racism on this forum is directed at the UK. (after Turkey) Your children will have a better life in the big world by having it as a second language, like it or lump it....... You receive grants from the EU to which UK is one of the biggest contributors.....
Anyway IMHO as much as i would like to see reunification, i dont think it will happen in my lifetime - the hatred is being taught to children on both sides to carry forward and Turkey will never leave what it has had now for thirty odd years...
(sigh) im outta this forum now so fire away

We have seen how the Greeks teach hate to their children but have you any evidence that the Turks are doing the same??

Turkish is now available as an optional foreign language on the high school curriculum in the RoC; don't you think it is time for the Turkish Cypriot authorities to put on Greek lessons for those school students who wish to learn it? Let's give credit where it is due. Things are changing.

[DT.]

No!! Like this......Just before the massacre!!

How many TC's were massacred and how many GC's were massacred Zan?

[utu]

I was under the impression that this thread was about the National Flag and Anthem on Cyprus and how - should a reconciliation occur - both would need to be changed to signify a 'new' start for the reunified state. I suppose I should not be surprised though. Emblems and trappings of nationalism always seem to stir up nationalist debate, but whether or not this is the case here, we need to keep our heads in the game.

[zan]

No!! Like this......Just before the massacre!!

How many TC's were massacred and how many GC's were massacred Zan?

If it is a matter of numbers that concern you then perhaps a recap on the dates of the two events should.

[miltiades]

I was under the impression that this thread was about the National Flag and Anthem on Cyprus and how - should a reconciliation occur - both would need to be changed to signify a 'new' start for the reunified state. I suppose I should not be surprised though. Emblems and trappings of nationalism always seem to stir up nationalist debate, but whether or not this is the case here, we need to keep our heads in the game.

Utu , Zan does NOT and NEVER wanted either reconciliation , unification or anything else that excluded his dream of becoming part of he once described as " the new modern world " , He meant Turkey. This guy will search high and low for material to feed his insatiable appetite of hatred for the G/Cs . He represents the extreme of the extreme .

[Viewpoint]

I was under the impression that this thread was about the National Flag and Anthem on Cyprus and how - should a reconciliation occur - both would need to be changed to signify a 'new' start for the reunified state. I suppose I should not be surprised though. Emblems and trappings of nationalism always seem to stir up nationalist debate, but whether or not this is the case here, we need to keep our heads in the game.

Utu , Zan does NOT and NEVER wanted either reconciliation , unification or anything else that excluded his dream of becoming part of he once described as " the new modern world " , He meant Turkey. This guy will search high and low for material to feed his insatiable appetite of hatred for the G/Cs . He represents the extreme of the extreme .

Have you thought about the fact that he is right and that your approach is only pushing TCs into a danger zone?

[miltiades]

I was under the impression that this thread was about the National Flag and Anthem on Cyprus and how - should a reconciliation occur - both would need to be changed to signify a 'new' start for the reunified state. I suppose I should not be surprised though. Emblems and trappings of nationalism always seem to stir up nationalist debate, but whether or not this is the case here, we need to keep our heads in the game.

Utu , Zan does NOT and NEVER wanted either reconciliation , unification or anything else that excluded his dream of becoming part of he once described as " the new modern world " , He meant Turkey. This guy will search high and low for material to feed his insatiable appetite of hatred for the G/Cs . He represents the extreme of the extreme .

Have you thought about the fact that he is right and that your approach is only pushing TCs into a danger zone?

And why may I ask is he right in hating the G/Cs , he is no different from any G/C extremist who hates T/Cs .
My approach IS the correct one , forgive , forget , unite as one people on the island of Cyprus .

[Viewpoint]

I was under the impression that this thread was about the National Flag and Anthem on Cyprus and how - should a reconciliation occur - both would need to be changed to signify a 'new' start for the reunified state. I suppose I should not be surprised though. Emblems and trappings of nationalism always seem to stir up nationalist debate, but whether or not this is the case here, we need to keep our heads in the game.

Utu , Zan does NOT and NEVER wanted either reconciliation , unification or anything else that excluded his dream of becoming part of he once described as " the new modern world " , He meant Turkey. This guy will search high and low for material to feed his insatiable appetite of hatred for the G/Cs . He represents the extreme of the extreme .

Have you thought about the fact that he is right and that your approach is only pushing TCs into a danger zone?

And why may I ask is he right in hating the G/Cs , he is no different from any G/C extremist who hates T/Cs .
My approach IS the correct one , forgive , forget , unite as one people on the island of Cyprus .

Forgive sure but forgetting is foolish as you should learn from the past actions of people and make sure the same mistakes are not allowed in the future. Thats exactly what we are trying to do with demanding safeguards your constant denial of this right just fuels the belief that GCs have other agendas to deal with TCs once they have obtained the upper hand and your appraoch only lulls TCs into a false sense of security until the day dawns that GCs discriminate against TCs to the exteme of placing our lives at risk, how would you feel then?

[miltiades]

The Cypriot people will NEVER give a blank cheque to Turkey anymore than an open cheque to Greece. When will you realize VP that events today are monitored by a much more authoritative power than before ,the EU .
Turkey must NEVER be given legal rights to intervene in the affairs of an independent nation and a member of the EU. Turkey must realize this and act accordingly.
This is not 1571 but the 21st century. Turkey is , just as Greece is , a foreign power . In not so many years from now other ethnic minorities will reach the numbers of T/Cs currently in Cyprus , do they demand their own guarantees ie the Russians from Russia the Brits from Britain and so on and so forth ?
No Sir , the nation of Cyprus is a part of Europe today and with the EU becoming more and more directional the time will come that all of us will be under the protection of a much larger and powerful nation , that of the EU.