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[Kikapu]

The only difference now from the past is, that Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the HOUSE and third in line for the presidency has already pushed the Armenian Genocide issue to the "front burners" last year before Bush had to beg her to put it back on the "back burners" due to US's fragile position in Iraq that any pressure on Turkey at this point may make operations more difficult for them. Well, the US slowly but surely are starting to wind down the war, "mission accomplished" or not, which will take away any leverage Turkey may hold on the US. Plus, add the Kurdish issues which the US needs their support in Iraq if the rest of the country should fall into the Iran's influence, the US has the Kurds in the North as an ally. Lets not forget that the US will support the Kurds if they should decide to declare independence with the oil fields in Kirkuk as Turkey tries to deny them, along with the oil fields. So the Cyprus issue will be the part of the One-Two-Three punch against Turkey as a package as we go forward in to the future. With the Democrats majority likely to increase in the Senate and the House, and with the Democrats in the White House, will without a doubt, make any move against Turkey, all that much easier.

[BirKibrisli]

Turkey is in Cyprus with the blessing of America...Not many of you would dispute this,I hope..Turkey will only leave Cyprus when told by the Americans to do so...Now,with a cold war on the boil (so to speak) it is anybody's guess how strategic planning for the USA would go regarding the area...The EU and NATO is no match for the Russians...The bear has woken up and showing her claws...How will America respond??? How important for Europe is the gas pipeline through Turkey??? Would Russia dare cut off any of the energy supplies to the West??? How will the USA-Iran Mexican standoff play out??? So many questions,so few answers...My thinking is,our poor Cyprus will continue to be a pawn in foreign power- plays for some time to come...

[humanist]

They will say anything for a few more Greek votes.

couldn't have said it better myself. And it came from a Turk, what else can i say.

[pantheman]

Turkey is in Cyprus with the blessing of America...Not many of you would dispute this

Miltiades are you listening ?????

And this came from your TRUE CYPRIOT friend that you speak most highly of.

Go on then, now call him a plonker for stating the obvious, because when others say it, you just come to the defense of the Yanks and everyone is a bloody idiot.

Thank you Birs, you have made my day

[miltiades]

Turkey is in Cyprus with the blessing of America...Not many of you would dispute this

Miltiades are you listening ?????

And this came from your TRUE CYPRIOT friend that you speak most highly of.

Go on then, now call him a plonker for stating the obvious, because when others say it, you just come to the defense of the Yanks and everyone is a bloody idiot.

Thank you Birs, you have made my day

You may recall that the Junta coup against Makarios was orchestrated and executed by the Greek Colonels in charge of Greece at the time.
America did not light the fuse , she remained inactive at Turkeys invasion of Cyprus, and indirectly supported her own interests as Superpowers usually do.
I will not dispute the fact that America remained inactive but I doubt very much that Bir would say that America was the force that influenced Turkey to invade.
What you fail to understand is that the invasion by Turkey was not orchestrated by the USA but was entirely as a result of the military coup against Makarios .
Anti American feelings run quite high at the time as indeed they are right now , and my objection is directed at the failure of the Cypriot people to realize that the big powers have much more to benefit by supporting powerful allies than sworn enemies !

[Oracle]

Turkey is in Cyprus with the blessing of America...Not many of you would dispute this

Miltiades are you listening ?????

And this came from your TRUE CYPRIOT friend that you speak most highly of.

Go on then, now call him a plonker for stating the obvious, because when others say it, you just come to the defense of the Yanks and everyone is a bloody idiot.

Thank you Birs, you have made my day

You may recall that the Junta coup against Makarios was orchestrated and executed by the Greek Colonels in charge of Greece at the time.
America did not light the fuse , she remained inactive at Turkeys invasion of Cyprus, and indirectly supported her own interests as Superpowers usually do.
I will not dispute the fact that America remained inactive but I doubt very much that Bir would say that America was the force that influenced Turkey to invade.
What you fail to understand is that the invasion by Turkey was not orchestrated by the USA but was entirely as a result of the military coup against Makarios .
Anti American feelings run quite high at the time as indeed they are right now , and my objection is directed at the failure of the Cypriot people to realize that the big powers have much more to benefit by supporting powerful allies than sworn enemies !

And who was in charge of, and directly behind, if not also funding the Greek Generals?

[Paphitis]

Turkey is in Cyprus with the blessing of America...Not many of you would dispute this

Miltiades are you listening ?????

And this came from your TRUE CYPRIOT friend that you speak most highly of.

Go on then, now call him a plonker for stating the obvious, because when others say it, you just come to the defense of the Yanks and everyone is a bloody idiot.

Thank you Birs, you have made my day

You may recall that the Junta coup against Makarios was orchestrated and executed by the Greek Colonels in charge of Greece at the time.
America did not light the fuse , she remained inactive at Turkeys invasion of Cyprus, and indirectly supported her own interests as Superpowers usually do.
I will not dispute the fact that America remained inactive but I doubt very much that Bir would say that America was the force that influenced Turkey to invade.
What you fail to understand is that the invasion by Turkey was not orchestrated by the USA but was entirely as a result of the military coup against Makarios .
Anti American feelings run quite high at the time as indeed they are right now , and my objection is directed at the failure of the Cypriot people to realize that the big powers have much more to benefit by supporting powerful allies than sworn enemies !

Professor Milt, you may need to do some additional reading on this matter such as The Cyprus Conspiracy by Brendan O'Malley.

I also suggest that you read the Memoirs of Henry Kissinger, and you will very quickly re-THINK your ignorant views. IMHO

A generation after the Greek Colonels staged a coup on Cyprus in July 1974, dramatically ousting its Greek Cypriot leader Archbishop Makarios, and Turkey retaliating by invading and seizing a third of the island, the historic Mediterranean island remains split in two. As divided as Berlin before the Wall came down, Cyprus is still bristling with troops and electronic spying stations and remains permanently policed by the United Nations.

Henry Kissinger claimed he could do nothing to stop the adventure because of the Watergate crisis. But The Cyprus Conspiaracy provides crucial evidence that this was no failure of American foreign policy but the realisation of a longstanding plan.

[Oracle]

Turkey is in Cyprus with the blessing of America...Not many of you would dispute this

Miltiades are you listening ?????

And this came from your TRUE CYPRIOT friend that you speak most highly of.

Go on then, now call him a plonker for stating the obvious, because when others say it, you just come to the defense of the Yanks and everyone is a bloody idiot.

Thank you Birs, you have made my day

You may recall that the Junta coup against Makarios was orchestrated and executed by the Greek Colonels in charge of Greece at the time.
America did not light the fuse , she remained inactive at Turkeys invasion of Cyprus, and indirectly supported her own interests as Superpowers usually do.
I will not dispute the fact that America remained inactive but I doubt very much that Bir would say that America was the force that influenced Turkey to invade.
What you fail to understand is that the invasion by Turkey was not orchestrated by the USA but was entirely as a result of the military coup against Makarios .
Anti American feelings run quite high at the time as indeed they are right now , and my objection is directed at the failure of the Cypriot people to realize that the big powers have much more to benefit by supporting powerful allies than sworn enemies !

Professor Milt, you may need to do some additional reading on this matter such as The Cyprus Conspiracy by Brendan O'Malley.

I also suggest that you read the Memoirs of Henry Kissinger, and you will very quickly re-THINK your ignorant views. IMHO

A generation after the Greek Colonels staged a coup on Cyprus in July 1974, dramatically ousting its Greek Cypriot leader Archbishop Makarios, and Turkey retaliating by invading and seizing a third of the island, the historic Mediterranean island remains split in two. As divided as Berlin before the Wall came down, Cyprus is still bristling with troops and electronic spying stations and remains permanently policed by the United Nations.

Henry Kissinger claimed he could do nothing to stop the adventure because of the Watergate crisis. But The Cyprus Conspiaracy provides crucial evidence that this was no failure of American foreign policy but the realisation of a longstanding plan.

Maybe Miltiades has never heard of American Duplicity ....

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Takism8.htm

[Paphitis]

Turkey is in Cyprus with the blessing of America...Not many of you would dispute this

Miltiades are you listening ?????

And this came from your TRUE CYPRIOT friend that you speak most highly of.

Go on then, now call him a plonker for stating the obvious, because when others say it, you just come to the defense of the Yanks and everyone is a bloody idiot.

Thank you Birs, you have made my day

You may recall that the Junta coup against Makarios was orchestrated and executed by the Greek Colonels in charge of Greece at the time.
America did not light the fuse , she remained inactive at Turkeys invasion of Cyprus, and indirectly supported her own interests as Superpowers usually do.
I will not dispute the fact that America remained inactive but I doubt very much that Bir would say that America was the force that influenced Turkey to invade.
What you fail to understand is that the invasion by Turkey was not orchestrated by the USA but was entirely as a result of the military coup against Makarios .
Anti American feelings run quite high at the time as indeed they are right now , and my objection is directed at the failure of the Cypriot people to realize that the big powers have much more to benefit by supporting powerful allies than sworn enemies !

Professor Milt, you may need to do some additional reading on this matter such as The Cyprus Conspiracy by Brendan O'Malley.

I also suggest that you read the Memoirs of Henry Kissinger, and you will very quickly re-THINK your ignorant views. IMHO

A generation after the Greek Colonels staged a coup on Cyprus in July 1974, dramatically ousting its Greek Cypriot leader Archbishop Makarios, and Turkey retaliating by invading and seizing a third of the island, the historic Mediterranean island remains split in two. As divided as Berlin before the Wall came down, Cyprus is still bristling with troops and electronic spying stations and remains permanently policed by the United Nations.

Henry Kissinger claimed he could do nothing to stop the adventure because of the Watergate crisis. But The Cyprus Conspiaracy provides crucial evidence that this was no failure of American foreign policy but the realisation of a longstanding plan.

Maybe Miltiades has never heard of American Duplicity ....

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Takism8.htm

And there are many more documents just like those in the above link, which are yet to be de-classified in Greece, presumably as they may uncover some public figures in both Greece and Cyprus for conspiring with The Greek Generals, CIA and Turkey to achieve double ENOSIS!

[paliometoxo]

They will say anything for a few more Greek votes.

is there not more turkish in america? why wouldent the president also say to the turks we will recognise trnc? if he is doing it for votes he would gain more votes from turkish, i assume there is way more turks in america then there is cypriots..