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Why dont Turkish Cypriots TRUST Greek Cypriots???

Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 11, 2005 9:08 pm

This question always plagues my mind, why is that we cannot trust GCs, is it down to history??? is it their current stance towards our community??? is it in fact a misconception?? or are they really not to be trusted, as sooner or later they will undermine any agreement to obtain the upper hand forcing their ideal of majority rule a Greek Cypriot state with Turkish Cypriots reduced to a minority in the own homeland.

What can we do to get rid of this belief ??? can we get rid of it???
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Postby MicAtCyp » Wed May 11, 2005 9:32 pm

First ask youself under what conditions you can trust any human person and under what conditions you cannot trust him.
Then you will get your answers.

As a general advice you can follow this rule:Dont trust anyone!
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Postby MicAtCyp » Wed May 11, 2005 9:37 pm

Let me give you an example:
A guy wants a brand new Mercedes.But he negotiates and negotiates he wants to get it at least 3,000 pounds lower price than what ANYONE has ever bought the same model.
Finally the sales officers says OK, deal.

Question: Can the buyer trust the Mercedes not to have a hidden defect that is not covered by the normal guarantee?
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Re: Why dont Turkish Cypriots TRUST Greek Cypriots???

Postby Kifeas » Wed May 11, 2005 10:01 pm

Viewpoint wrote:This question always plagues my mind, why is that we cannot trust GCs, is it down to history??? is it their current stance towards our community??? is it in fact a misconception??


The problem is not because the GCs are not trustworthy. The problem is because you have an inferiority complex. And this inferiority complex generates feelings of resentment towards GCs. What you feel is not mistrust but resentment. The only solution for you is to get reed of your inferiority complexes.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 11, 2005 10:10 pm

Kifeas that is one viewpoint, when say you do u mean as an individual or TCs in general. If its me I personally dont feel inferior to anyone Im well educated, have a great job, a great family, am very respected by people and am financially ok, so why should i feel inferior. Do you feel you or GCs have done enough to gain the trust of TCs what have you done to build trust between our communities???
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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 11, 2005 10:35 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Kifeas that is one viewpoint, when say you do u mean as an individual or TCs in general. If its me I personally dont feel inferior to anyone Im well educated, have a great job, a great family, am very respected by people and am financially ok, so why should i feel inferior. Do you feel you or GCs have done enough to gain the trust of TCs what have you done to build trust between our communities???


I am referring to all those TCs (including you) and your leadership who claim that the reason you demand the moon and the stars is because you do not trust the GCs. I said that the real problem is not the untrustworthiness of GCs but your inferiority complexes that make you so resentful and consequently over demanding and uncompromising.

What you need to do is to look internally and try to get overcome your inferiority complexes as a community. I am not implying that all TCs suffer from the same inferiority syndromes, but unfortunately the majority does.
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Postby Piratis » Wed May 11, 2005 10:35 pm

A guy wants a brand new Mercedes.But he negotiates and negotiates he wants to get it at least 3,000 pounds lower price than what ANYONE has ever bought the same model.
Finally the sales officers says OK, deal.

Question: Can the buyer trust the Mercedes not to have a hidden defect that is not covered by the normal guarantee?


Good example MicAtCyp. But it is not quite like that. The salesperson can always say "no" and loose nothing. They didn't put a gun on his head and threaten him that if he does not agree they will just steal his car and pay him nothing.
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Postby metecyp » Wed May 11, 2005 10:45 pm

Kifeas wrote:What you need to do is to look internally and try to get overcome your inferiority complexes as a community. I am not implying that all TCs suffer from the same inferiority syndromes, but unfortunately the majority does.

Inferiority complex? How did you reach to this conclusion? Actually I think many TCs have superiority complex :-) There might have been some inferiority complex before the borders opened because most TCs believed that the "other side" was a little Europe and much more developed. Now ask any TC and he will tell you how the "other side" is more developed but this is normal considering that GCs were the only government of the island all these years.

Anyway, I don't think that trust can be linked to inferiority complex because there's no such thing. Trust issues mainly stem from the past and also the present attitude of GCs towards TCs. I also think that lack of understanding and empathy on both sides further increases mistrust.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 11, 2005 10:54 pm

metecyp dont you feel that the current stance of the south and the lack of dialogue over the past year has contributed to an increase in mistrust, TCs seemed to be more willing to try and understand and build bridges between our 2 communities but what we are witnessing right now in the north is a diminished desire to live with GCs or as daily events unfold a contempt is building up at actions taken by GCs to force certain issues.
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Postby metecyp » Wed May 11, 2005 10:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:metecyp dont you feel that the current stance of the south and the lack of dialogue over the past year has contributed to an increase in mistrust, TCs seemed to be more willing to try and understand and build bridges between our 2 communities but what we are witnessing right now in the north is a diminished desire to live with GCs or as daily events unfold a contempt is building up at actions taken by GCs to force certain issues.

Well, I don't want to get into a useless who's right or who's wrong argument but the recent events of taking TCs to courts for occupying GC land/property are definetely making TCs to think twice about GC motives.
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