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[metecyp]

A classic symptom of an inferiority complex!

Out of all my post which I believe included many valid points, that's what you got?? I mean if we're not trying to learn from each other here, what's the point? I'm telling you the way it is but you insist that you're right. Don't you think that I would know my community better than you?

What about your little theory of "We're all Cypriots, one community indivisible..."? I guess you think GCs also have inferiority complex too because we're one, right?

[Alexandros Lordos]

This question always plagues my mind, why is that we cannot trust GCs, is it down to history??? is it their current stance towards our community??? is it in fact a misconception?? or are they really not to be trusted, as sooner or later they will undermine any agreement to obtain the upper hand forcing their ideal of majority rule a Greek Cypriot state with Turkish Cypriots reduced to a minority in the own homeland.

What can we do to get rid of this belief ??? can we get rid of it???

Viewpoint,

may I say first of all that your more recent posts have been giving me hope. You are no longer just saying a blanket "forget it, let's have nothing to do with each other", but you are sincerely reaching out and trying to build bridges - and since the issue we are discussing is trust, I could say that your newer attitude makes me trust you more and more.

I think trust comes through the everyday reality of co-existence, all we have now of each other are painful memories from 40 years ago, stereotypes, and the reality of being political antagonists. Whenever I find myself working together with a TC on something, eventually trust and affection seems to grow.

Over the last year or so, this has been happening more for me, because the surveys are a bicommunal project - so I've been working very closely with TCs. We have not had any problem whatsoever in our co-operation: mutual respect, harmony and trust have been prevailing.

I suppose that after a solution, (if we ever get there - I hope we do), this experience of working together will be generalised, majorities of both communities will live through it. And then we will have trust. In fact, I suspect that not only will we learn to trust each other, we will begin wondering how it is we managed to live apart from each other for all these decades.

[Viewpoint]

Dear Alexandros, thank you for recognizing the change, I am making a conserted effort in once again trying to understand GCs and their concerns, but unfortunately and to my great dispair from time to time, your attitude (one of the reasons why I joined this forum) which is a rareity amongst GCs, the stubborness and condensending comments which you yourself also read made by certain members of this forum which I do not even bother to acknowledge or respond to still keeps alive the desire to live seperately, but then I read your constructive comments and sense I would not have a problem with having a neighbour like yourself in fact I would welcome you. But for me the TRUST element appears to be lacking, the past, the current negative stance of your administration, the court cases, the spying on home occuppiers, TCs being regarded as thieves and just out to "win" all contribute to this lack of TRUST.
Your administration could do a lot towards building bridges between the 2 communities instead they choose play the we are stronger we are better we are righteous you have to bow to our demands.
Its a viscious circle which we have to break, but it cannot be done one sided, I still feel that I have to be convinced the GCs and their administration are sincere and genuinly want to build a partnership with our community.
One point I would also like to bring to your and everyones attention is the issue of GC property, this was the one area which 90% of TCs would have felt that GCs should have a better deal in getting their back their property or obtaining real compensation but the unfolding events are pushing TCs to toughen their attitudes which in long run will not be beneficial to either side. This issue has to be addressed as a matter of urgency taking into account realities and ensuring that no side is uncomfortable with developments, concrete figures should be made available to GCs to eleviate their concerns, the percentages quoted on this forum are exaggerated and should not be taken seriously.
We need to work together on many key issues then maybe the trust you have found between yourself and those TCs you work with can flourish between others including myself.

[Main_Source]

Hey, maybe here's some reasons why Greeks shouldn't trust Turks

Mustaffa [ E-mail ]
March 28, 2005, 06:17

Lets just put it this way, we are not a minority we are a majority, When we join the EU we will take over Cyprus and rule it.

Okan [ E-mail ]
Wallaceburg, March 24, 2005, 15:34

There are over 100 million turks in the world we should all move to the trnc and we will then see who is the minority.

[MicAtCyp]

I mean if we're not trying to learn from each other here, what's the point?

We do learn from you and you do learn from us allright. Be sure of that. Although most of the times some people learn only when they are insulted. What other reply can anyone give to provoking statements, like the ones presented by garbitsch all the time as for example his statement that "you exchanged your properties"?

Back to the matter of TRUST.
As long as there exist OPEN ACCOUNTS between us there will be no trust.When the accounts are settled then there will be trust.Until then everybody should learn to live in between, or at any end he feels suitable

[metecyp]

Hey, maybe here's some reasons why Greeks shouldn't trust Turks Very Happy

Do you want me to copy/paste some of NickTheGreek or NicosSampson's posts about how evil Turks are and how they'll get Constantinopole back and all the crap?

[brother]

Hey, maybe here's some reasons why Greeks shouldn't trust Turks

Dude how is that helpful, you post one persons opinion which will inevitably affect many in thinking that there is a greek hating community when just from this forum and the green line opening you knw that we are human too, try to refrain from posting that sort of rubbish it only does damage to the decent people, not the racist wankers who would love to see a war between the greeks and turks.

[cannedmoose]

Viewpoint, may I say first of all that your more recent posts have been giving me hope. You are no longer just saying a blanket "forget it, let's have nothing to do with each other", but you are sincerely reaching out and trying to build bridges - and since the issue we are discussing is trust, I could say that your newer attitude makes me trust you more and more.

For what it's worth, I second that VP, the progression in your thought processes (trying not to sound like your shrink!) has really been interesting and notable. Although, I didn't have any trust issues with you in the first place, not being a Cypriot of either extraction, I can see how the change you've displayed, as well as the progressive thoughts of people like Alex L., metecyp and others is heartening to those on both sides.

[Kifeas]

Hey, maybe here's some reasons why Greeks shouldn't trust Turks Very Happy

Do you want me to copy/paste some of NickTheGreek or NicosSampson's posts about how evil Turks are and how they'll get Constantinopole back and all the crap?

NickTheGreek, NicosSampson, Andrik etc, are most probably the same person coming back with a different name once his is banned.

[brother]

Would the admin not see the i.p address from the computer they used to register and be able to block it, if thats the case.