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Why dont Turkish Cypriots TRUST Greek Cypriots???

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Kifeas » Wed May 11, 2005 10:59 pm

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Kifeas wrote:What you need to do is to look internally and try to get overcome your inferiority complexes as a community. I am not implying that all TCs suffer from the same inferiority syndromes, but unfortunately the majority does.

Inferiority complex? How did you reach to this conclusion? Actually I think many TCs have superiority complex :-) There might have been some inferiority complex before the borders opened because most TCs believed that the "other side" was a little Europe and much more developed. Now ask any TC and he will tell you how the "other side" is more developed but this is normal considering that GCs were the only government of the island all these years.

Anyway, I don't think that trust can be linked to inferiority complex because there's no such thing. Trust issues mainly stem from the past and also the present attitude of GCs towards TCs. I also think that lack of understanding and empathy on both sides further increases mistrust.


Well! The development of a superiority complex is always an outcome or a consequence of suffering from an inferiority complex, which instead of being cured it is converted into a superiority complex.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 11, 2005 11:05 pm

Kifeas cant it just be a case of mistrust which is created by GCs and their mentality towards us, a reflection of what GCs portray. This is obviously something you cannot see or understand yourselves as it would need self analysis and honesty.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Wed May 11, 2005 11:06 pm

This thread seems to ignore the opposite question - why the GC's don't trust the TC's. I think many GC's don't trust the motives of the TC's when they have Turkey and her massive military machine backing them up at every turn. For the GC's that is our greatest fear.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 11, 2005 11:12 pm

-mikkie2- you are right, and warranted in your fear of the Turkish Army but they can leave the island thus eliviating your fear but how do we gain trust in GCs, no one has attempted to answer this question, which ı believe is the key to solvivg many other problems.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Wed May 11, 2005 11:15 pm

The only way to start trusting us is to interact with us. It is as simple as that. Interacting with us at arms length as is very much the case at the moment and to a lesser extent under the A plan then there is no way of building trust.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 11, 2005 11:15 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Kifeas cant it just be a case of mistrust which is created by GCs and their mentality towards us, a reflection of what GCs portray. This is obviously something you cannot see or understand yourselves as it would need self analysis and honesty.


Viewpoint! The rough is only mental! If you can trust, you can trust! If you cannot trust, you cannot trust! But as I said the problem is not trust! Every day so many TCs cross the "border" and visit GC doctors and receive medical treatment. If they didn't trust the GCs, they wouldn't trust their health and lives to the GC doctors. The same can be said for the thousands of TCs who cross south for employment. The problem is not that you do not trust the GCs. I said the problem that you have is the resentment you feel against them. This is an outcome of your inferiority syndromes. Try to get reed of them. I am not a psychologist to help you in this. I hope I will just manage overcome my own psychological problems.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 11, 2005 11:25 pm

Kifeas you cannot index health care and employment to trust, these 2 issues are done out of necesesity, no other immediate option and desire to live, so linking the two is not right in my opinion.
Trust is something which is earned and build not something which in instictive even a mother to encourage a child to walk building trust that it will be there to catch it if it should fall. We just dont have this trust between our communities we feel that at the first possible opportunity you will stab us in the back figuratively speaking but if we cannot build this trust between our communities I dont see the point of trying to force 2 peoples to live together.
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Postby metecyp » Wed May 11, 2005 11:26 pm

Kifeas wrote:The problem is not that you do not trust the GCs. I said the problem that you have is the resentment you feel against them. This is an outcome of your inferiority syndromes. Try to get reed of them. I am not a psychologist to help you in this. I hope I will just manage overcome my own psychological problems.

It's not that an ordinary TC does not trust an ordinary GC. I have GC friends and I totally trust them as people. Many TCs trusted GCs between 1963-1974 as well. I heard stories of TCs seeking help from their GC friends against EOKA. So there is/was trust among ordinary TCs and GCs. But we're not talking about trust at personal level.

We're talking about trust at the political level. TCs do not trust that their rights will be protected in a GC majority. What else do you expect when your side wanted to change the constitution without the approval of TCs in 1963? What else do you expect when your side almost secured Enosis with the coup? What else do you expect when nobody is bothered by lack of TCs in RoC today, after 40 years? There has been no indication from your side that our representation and participation are welcomed. All we hear is: "You're minority, you're 18%, you're thieves...". That's why we don't trust your goodwill at the political level .

I sometimes have a feeling that your side wouldn't give a crap about TCs if we didn't have what you wanted (land).
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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 11, 2005 11:30 pm

metecyp wrote:I sometimes have a feeling that your side wouldn't give a crap about TCs if we didn't have what you wanted (land).


A classic symptom of an inferiority complex!
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Postby garbitsch » Wed May 11, 2005 11:37 pm

OK we have inferiority complex. Satisfied?
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