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[DT.]

I tell you what...Why don't you send over your president over to ask if he can be president of all of Cyprus and hen we say no you can all cry like little spoiled children.......

No settlement has been agreed yet so why are your henchmen being sent to stir up trouble before the talks......

Zan, the point is, why won't they return the good will gesture and allow the pilgrims to cross Limnitis?

I think that everything should be frozen as it is until there is a decision on where we are going so that people like that do not use every opportunity to wreck the talks like this. I just hope that Christophias was not part of this sabotage and his comrade got a bollocking for trying to stir things up.

Zan, now that your comrade stirred things up and we allowed you to cross over for the Tylliria celebrations (a celebration against GC's) where we wrong to allow you? SHould we have frozen it then? Or is it that now that you got your celebratory crossing you don't give a f*ck anymore and we canno freeze everything?

We want to go over for a religious ceremony and are not allowed
You wished to come over to commemorate a TC victory over GC's and we allow it.

You have the balls to climb on top and claim provocation????

[humanist]

I think we know where Zan stands DT ..... he is a Turks after all.

[CopperLine]

Humanist,
How can advocacy of closing all crossings be regarded as the wish of a humanist ? Politician, yes; nationalist yes; avenger yes; desperado yes; frustrated yes: humanist no.

[Agios Ionas]

You conveniently forget that you were trying to do the same thing but failed, the big difference is that we are Turkish in origin and not Greek.

That was then, now is now! We must move on ffs. It doesn't necessarily mean that we must forget, but we must indeed forgive and move on. We do not live in 1571, 1878, 1958, 1960, 1963, 1974 or 1983. It's 2008! Most people have changed. The world has changed around us. Some for the better, some for the worse. But still... change is an ongoing process... it's inevitable. Do you want good changes or bad ones?

If people keep harping on the same string and argue about who did what to whom 2000 years ago, 400 years ago, 45-50 years ago or 34 years ago some things will never change and we might just as well nuke each other to hell... because if people are unable to move on there is no hope for mankind... at all.

[Bananiot]

Archbishop Chrysostomos said this morning that he was praying for the Turks not to grant permission for the pilgrims to go to Morphou. For a change, God did him this favour.

[DT.]

Archbishop Chrysostomos said this morning that he was praying for the Turks not to grant permission for the pilgrims to go to Morphou. For a change, God did him this favour.

So you blame a priest for praying for something and not the Turk who refused permission and showed us there is no give and take when it comes to them?

[Bananiot]

No DT, it never crossed my mind that the decision of the army was affected in any way by the praying of a priest, not even if he were the Archbishop. What strikes me is the urge of some people to call for the closing of all gates in order to do basically what the Turkish army wants and deal a fatal blow to the prospects of peace.

[DT.]

No DT, it never crossed my mind that the decision of the army was affected in any way by the praying of a priest, not even if he were the Archbishop. What strikes me is the urge of some people to call for the closing of all gates in order to do basically what the Turkish army wants and deal a fatal blow to the prospects of peace.

your plan would be to grant as many openings when and where it serves tC's despite not receiving any goodwill back?

[Bananiot]

No DT, my plan is to shower the Turkish Cypriots with good will, even in the face of adversity. We want them on the side of Cyprus. Many of them make thier living in the south and some sick nationalist are calling for the closing of all gates. They want to throw the Turkish Cypriots in the warm embrace of mother Turkey again. This is bloody treason DT and by the way, are you also calling for the closing of all gates? What is your position on this?

[-mikkie2-]

We have a serious problem when Talat is not in a position to negotiate anything.

The crossing points need to stay open. The Turks are trying to provoke a reaction from the GC side and that is obvious. If we fall into their rather crude trap then they will use it against us to prove that partition and recognition is the only solution.

There is very little that we can do here and this is where we need the help of the big players (EU, US, UK) to put pressure on Turkey.