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[Oracle]

T_C

Yeah I'm ok thanks

We lasted for 30+ years so I don't know what would be so different if they closed them again.
We've gotten used to missing out on a lot of things and we've been through a lot worse than having some crossings being closed.

And we have been punished, by the GCs and Turkey OVER and OVER and OVER again.

No TC would trust the word of the GC government, they'd have to be stupid. A bit like you trusting Turkey actually...

I cannot believe that after the thousands of people who roam in the RoC from the occupied areas each and evry day you have come u with this valueless setence T-C. Firstly GC's are not punishing you, you are all punishing yourselves. We are the legal nation, we are under occupation from Turkey we sought support from the international arena and they have honoured humanitarian practice. How are we excactly punishing your people mate. Give a good reason and then I'll apologise.

If you are referring to the embargoes it ireallty is very simple, you stole my home under gun point, I can and have imposed economic embargo.

The GC governemnt gives opportunities to TC's who want to take the and they have, if they don't want to trust is simply their issue. They choose not trust, if they can trust RoC employers and the wealth it gives them, who runs the country.


It is not a bit like not us not trusting Turkey we have very good reasons not to trust Turkey she entered illegally killed and pilalaged, kicked 200,000 people out of their homes and that is the reason we do not trust Turkey.

Funny how you forget thats exactly what eoka was doing to us, with the blessings of the GC government...

Pathetic reasoning T_C ... EOKA's prime aim was to remove the British and well you know it.

Instead of helping this course ... the TCs fought against it.

You have no one to blame but yourselves if you now feel let down by EVERYONE ... both by GCs and Turks.

How can that be T_C ? ...... that GCs and Turkey jointly colluded to frame the TCs ... pull the other one ..... you are one selfish paranoid, group of people ...

Useless ....

[humanist]

T-C

Funny how you forget thats exactly what eoka was doing to us, with the blessings of the GC government...

every time a T-C has run out a good argument they bring it back to EOKA. How about you look at Taksim and what that meant for Cypriots. Look at it only because I care less about it. I am not going to concentrate half a century ago , because I cannot change it. But your current actions show excactly where you peole stand.

Furthemore, look at the facts T_C .......... thousands cross over each day, work and play and yes when I was in Cyprus a year ago I went to a nice little club in Larnaca and guess what I met a wonderful TC and his friends about half a dozen of them, they were not scared of us. I saw a young mum wearing her head scarfe in the middle of Lefkosia on Makarios Avenue not far from Ayalma Solomou pushing a pram with a baby whilst holding a todler by hand, not only was she proud to b walking down the road she was pretty and she didn't look like she was scared, I was shopping at Carfour in Cyprus mall and the Turkish language was echoing everywhere, I met a TC taxi driver and I have a friend who took me to Apostolos Andreas he lives in the occupied area and has always lived in his village which is now under control of the Turks, so I can safey say that your argument is crap mate. EOKA is over, the Turkish occupation is not, we want peace and your masters do not.

[T_C]

T_C

Yeah I'm ok thanks

We lasted for 30+ years so I don't know what would be so different if they closed them again.
We've gotten used to missing out on a lot of things and we've been through a lot worse than having some crossings being closed.

And we have been punished, by the GCs and Turkey OVER and OVER and OVER again.

No TC would trust the word of the GC government, they'd have to be stupid. A bit like you trusting Turkey actually...

I cannot believe that after the thousands of people who roam in the RoC from the occupied areas each and evry day you have come u with this valueless setence T-C. Firstly GC's are not punishing you, you are all punishing yourselves. We are the legal nation, we are under occupation from Turkey we sought support from the international arena and they have honoured humanitarian practice. How are we excactly punishing your people mate. Give a good reason and then I'll apologise.

If you are referring to the embargoes it ireallty is very simple, you stole my home under gun point, I can and have imposed economic embargo.

The GC governemnt gives opportunities to TC's who want to take the and they have, if they don't want to trust is simply their issue. They choose not trust, if they can trust RoC employers and the wealth it gives them, who runs the country.


It is not a bit like not us not trusting Turkey we have very good reasons not to trust Turkey she entered illegally killed and pilalaged, kicked 200,000 people out of their homes and that is the reason we do not trust Turkey.

Funny how you forget thats exactly what eoka was doing to us, with the blessings of the GC government...

Pathetic reasoning T_C ... EOKA's prime aim was to remove the British and well you know it.

Instead of helping this course ... the TCs fought against it.

You have no one to blame but yourselves if you now feel let down by EVERYONE ... both by GCs and Turks.

How can that be T_C ? ...... that GCs and Turkey jointly colluded to frame the TCs ... pull the other one ..... you are one selfish paranoid, group of people ...

Useless ....

How pathetic of you people to not even realise the MISERY you caused our families way before Turkey set foot on the island yet cry about your own 24/7. You even deny us our suffering...

How are you going to tell me we should forget about what happened when you do nothing but deny it!!!!

How can you tell me to forget something that involved MY OWN FAMILY ?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... ora#176956

Women and children in my family were stripped and degraded by eoka out in the middle of roads!
They lost their homes, their villages, their lives and dignity and the best you can come out with is "Eoka is over, the Turkish occupation is not".

Pathetic as always.

[Oracle]

Yes T_C ... it is pathetic, because whatever you TCs say you suffered, the GCs can compound with their own suffering both at the hands of the TCs and the hands of Turkey and its henchmen TMT ... not for a decade but for Centuries.

Stop whining and ..... well ..... don't even get real! ... don't even grow up! ... just get lost!

[humanist]

T-C

How pathetic of you people to not even realise the MISERY you caused our families way before Turkey set foot on the island yet cry about your own 24/7. You even deny us our suffering...

dig this one T-C in 1974 I was 6 years of age. My mums brother not even 18 I remember the day my grandmother was told that her son was KILLED BY THE TURKS. I don't even have to go back to the 50's it happened infront of me. Further to this my grandmothers cousin lost her son the the TURKISH GUN and to top it off one morning I woke up to find 40 odd refugees in my home and I remember the day one of them was told her son was KILLED BY THE TURKS, I also remember standing on our verandah seeing the smoke and fire YOUR GUNS and invasion brought to our country and I remember that woman taking off to return to her home where she raised her son, with her grandchildren crying and screaming at the thought of loosing their grandmother, so don't preach to me about your MISERY sonny boy.


And what do I still support a UNITED CYPRUS where all Cypriots have equal rights and opportunties what do you support T-C?

[T_C]

Yes T_C ... it is pathetic, because whatever you TCs say you suffered, the GCs can compound with their own suffering both at the hands of the TCs and the hands of Turkey and its henchmen TMT ... not for a decade but for Centuries.

Stop whining and ..... well ..... don't even get real! ... don't even grow up! ... just get lost!

There you go again, I wasn't even "comparing" suffering.

I was simply giving my reasoning for not trusting the GC government and why to me they're the equivalent of the Turks you always talk about.

[T_C]

Why not preach to you about my misery? How many times have we heard about humanists cousin now?

Whats wrong with me showing my contempt for the people who harmed my family?

You're such hypocrites...

[humanist]

Obviously you haven't heard anything he is not my cousin he was my uncle and you are evading as a typical Turk always does. If you talk about mysery mate try and see the flip coin. Despite what I have sad above I still maintain that TC's and GC's are equal citizens on this Island, however, due to the propaganda you have been fed you are not able to see anything really. You want to blame someone for where TC's are today blame Denktas and Turkey. You stole from us our homes we are posing emabrgoes. let us return and claim what is our and you can have what is your and your freedom.

I will keep posting about my uncle everytime I am given the opportuntiy by you and other Turks on this forum if you cry mysery so can I. The difference is I still count you as an equal you see enemy. I know it is a concept beyond you ability to revcognise it but that s how it is.

[repulsewarrior]

...certainly, T_C it goes both ways. the history is not one of many pleasentries, and yet as the island dwellers we had managed to socialise ourselves to become Great Cooperators.

this is the truth, it goes beyond "Turkish" or "Greek" it is the survival of an ethic which deserves our esteem, and it survived millenia before the Modern Age.

...and so the reaction is 'natural', as such i wish we would govern ourselves accordingly, with an appropriation to the possibilities with our thoughts, toward the betterment of the Human Condition, as opposed to that which is the Impasse.

[T_C]

Obviously you haven't heard anything he is not my cousin he was my uncle and you are evading as a typical Turk always does. If you talk about mysery mate try and see the flip coin. Despite what I have sad above I still maintain that TC's and GC's are equal citizens on this Island, however, due to the propaganda you have been fed you are not able to see anything really. You want to blame someone for where TC's are today blame Denktas and Turkey. You stole from us our homes we are posing emabrgoes. let us return and claim what is our and you can have what is your and your freedom.

I will keep posting about my uncle everytime I am given the opportuntiy by you and other Turks on this forum if you cry mysery so can I. The difference is I still count you as an equal you see enemy. I know it is a concept beyond you ability to revcognise it but that s how it is.

No humanist evading is what you and Oracle were doing!

Sorry for the mixup by the way...but what you don't understand is that I UNDERSTAND your suffering, I DO NOT hate the ordinary GCs. It was the GC government that did this to my family and it's them I do not trust.

Ofcourse me not trusting the GC government doesn't do you or your cause any favours so I'm not suprised at the way you react. Thats so selfish though and shows exactly how much you "care" about TCs.

This is why you probably think that I hate GCs, but when GCs (including you) try and silence our suffering because it makes you look bad then it's crystal clear where we stand with GCs like yourselves.

You have EVERY RIGHT to talk about your familys suffering at the hands of the Turks or TCs but SO DO I about my family suffering at the hands of the GC government.