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[Viewpoint]

Bananiot you are very quick to judge. It has nothing to do with hate of TC's but a lot to do with injustice. Please expalin to me how this action by the Turkish army assists the process of unification, trust and willingness to live together. Just in case you have not noticed most GC posters on this forum have nothing against TC's but a lot of mistrust of Turkey. And I assure you most if us are more willing to live side by side with the TC's if they allowed their hate of Gc's to subside.

I am not sure what your links with the TC community is but I don't beieve it is in the best interest of Cypriots to create a state based on criminalities, violation of human rights so that 55,000 can achieve their goal which is ENOSIS with Turkey, and most of the TC's in here are very proud to stand and shout that from the roof tops.

Where I have high lighted, if you could now reverse this for one minute only then will you understand how we feel about GCs.

[Kikapu]

Bananiot you are very quick to judge. It has nothing to do with hate of TC's but a lot to do with injustice. Please expalin to me how this action by the Turkish army assists the process of unification, trust and willingness to live together. Just in case you have not noticed most GC posters on this forum have nothing against TC's but a lot of mistrust of Turkey. And I assure you most if us are more willing to live side by side with the TC's if they allowed their hate of Gc's to subside.

I am not sure what your links with the TC community is but I don't beieve it is in the best interest of Cypriots to create a state based on criminalities, violation of human rights so that 55,000 can achieve their goal which is ENOSIS with Turkey, and most of the TC's in here are very proud to stand and shout that from the roof tops.

Where I have high lighted, if you could now reverse this for one minute only then will you understand how we feel about GCs.

The only difference is, Humanist is talking about Turkey that he does not trust, but you are talking about ordinary GC's that you don't trust. That only gives you two choices. Either learn to trust and live with the GC's as an equal Cypriot citizen, or go and live in Turkey, but be sure to keep your life jacket on, because you will be considered only as a foreigner without any say so in their government or be able to take property belonging to others to create your own "TRNC II".

[Viewpoint]

Bananiot you are very quick to judge. It has nothing to do with hate of TC's but a lot to do with injustice. Please expalin to me how this action by the Turkish army assists the process of unification, trust and willingness to live together. Just in case you have not noticed most GC posters on this forum have nothing against TC's but a lot of mistrust of Turkey. And I assure you most if us are more willing to live side by side with the TC's if they allowed their hate of Gc's to subside.

I am not sure what your links with the TC community is but I don't beieve it is in the best interest of Cypriots to create a state based on criminalities, violation of human rights so that 55,000 can achieve their goal which is ENOSIS with Turkey, and most of the TC's in here are very proud to stand and shout that from the roof tops.

Where I have high lighted, if you could now reverse this for one minute only then will you understand how we feel about GCs.

The only difference is, Humanist is talking about Turkey that he does not trust, but you are talking about ordinary GC's that you don't trust. That only gives you two choices. Either learn to trust and live with the GC's as an equal Cypriot citizen, or go and live in Turkey, but be sure to keep your life jacket on, because you will be considered only as a foreigner without any say so in their government or be able to take property belonging to others to create your own "TRNC II".

GCs = "RoC" take it how you wish the result is the same the TCs do not trust GCs as for being a minority in the TRNC thats our business and preferred to being a minority amongest GCs, why do you find that so hard to understand?

[Kikapu]

Bananiot you are very quick to judge. It has nothing to do with hate of TC's but a lot to do with injustice. Please expalin to me how this action by the Turkish army assists the process of unification, trust and willingness to live together. Just in case you have not noticed most GC posters on this forum have nothing against TC's but a lot of mistrust of Turkey. And I assure you most if us are more willing to live side by side with the TC's if they allowed their hate of Gc's to subside.

I am not sure what your links with the TC community is but I don't beieve it is in the best interest of Cypriots to create a state based on criminalities, violation of human rights so that 55,000 can achieve their goal which is ENOSIS with Turkey, and most of the TC's in here are very proud to stand and shout that from the roof tops.

Where I have high lighted, if you could now reverse this for one minute only then will you understand how we feel about GCs.

The only difference is, Humanist is talking about Turkey that he does not trust, but you are talking about ordinary GC's that you don't trust. That only gives you two choices. Either learn to trust and live with the GC's as an equal Cypriot citizen, or go and live in Turkey, but be sure to keep your life jacket on, because you will be considered only as a foreigner without any say so in their government or be able to take property belonging to others to create your own "TRNC II".

GCs = "RoC" take it how you wish the result is the same the TCs do not trust GCs as for being a minority in the TRNC thats our business and preferred to being a minority amongest GCs, why do you find that so hard to understand?

In all honesty "VP", I do not understand your complete (incomplete) sentence. I have written "VP" as such, because your posts in the last couple of days has been anything but posts from our regular VP. Are you ("VP") giving our regular VP a break for his vacation or what.? This was very evident when you ("VP") forgot on another thread that our regular VP was born in the UK and not in Cyprus.!

[utu]

One thing I try to notice is that when announcements - such as this crossing denial - are made, it is what is NOT being said that needs to be looked at. The lack of preparation reason really is not valid, given that a supervised path of access could have been quickly arranged. Therefore, one needs to look at other reasons. Is it simply an exercise in power politics by the Turkish Cypriots/Turkish Military, or are the Greek Cypriots trying to cause this situation to rise by being so insistant in its demand for access?

[repulsewarrior]

...as I said, if there is a peace demonstration we should be there, and as for the hypocrites among us, let us be sure they are a minority by being there.

...if the Army, so called because it is an occupying force, is not forthcoming, let us ask for nothing, and demonstrate our belief in God with laughter, lovingly, while we take busloads halfway around Cyprus on a pillgramage.

...if they kill us again, let us be humble with the Grace to try again.

it is not an issue of "Greek" and "Turk" it is an issue of Intolerance fueled by the fear of change.

close all the crossings? not until there are none left to open. not until it is the desire of all Cypriots, as Cypriots.

[humanist]

so according to you VP then we should close the crossings because we don't trust Turkey and you don't trust GC's. Problem solved. God forbid we try and work it out. So why are you turning up to a peace march then? That's an answer for yourself.

[DT.]

DT, those that call for the closure of the gates are enemies of Cyprus. Are you one of them? Can you give us a clear answer on this? Stay open or close?

The only people you can call with certainty enemies of Cyprus are those that voted for the Anan Plan.

As for my position on the closure of the ceasefire line I have made it clear in a previous post which you will find below.

My position on this bananiot is to initiate goodwill with reciprocation expected. If the goodwill is not returned then we should stop there. The tc's need to realise that the turkish army is standing in the way of both communities.

If Limnitis is not opened so as to enable this cut off community to be able to rejoin the island then the same should be done for the tc community. The message should be clear, "we've offered these measures and expect the goodwill returned, if it is not then complain to your protectors."

[humanist]

well said DT

[conmarios]

Sorry guys but I totally agree with my friend Kafenes I think opening the crosings was the bigest mistake our polititians ever made.
They should be closed down until a soloution is reached.