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[bilako22]

kafenes, I agree. It will be an action that willl either make or break the Cypriot cause and I have a feeling it will make it. Watch the thousands who cross every day for work take up residence in the south rightfully, not living in some refugees home.

They will choose to live in their beautiful TRNC homes.

[bilako22]

let's not have any knee jerk reactions now...who knows what 'moves' the turkish 'deep state' have calculated...

i think we all know what they have calculated... tell us to f off demand more until they get what they want and moan like littke b~***es until we see a recognised trnc but lets not forget they also want to have say and use resources in the south ... just how much control do they want...

barbarian turks

The barbarian Turks say that you Greekos are too cowardly to close the crossimgs. go on punks , make my day.

[T_C]

I say close all crossings until a final solution has been reached!

Thats probably what they want kafenes.

Who are "they" that want this?

The Generals, wanting to punish the TCs for working with the GCs?

I say ... punish away!

Why should we be the only ones punished? The TCs have had it too easy so far and cannot be bothered to put themselves out to do the right thing and demand Turkey withdraws.

So have a real taste of Turkey ... with no crossing over for a taste of Freedom, and see how long you last!

(T_C ... you OK today? ).

Yeah I'm ok thanks

We lasted for 30+ years so I don't know what would be so different if they closed them again.
We've gotten used to missing out on a lot of things and we've been through a lot worse than having some crossings being closed.

And we have been punished, by the GCs and Turkey OVER and OVER and OVER again.

No TC would trust the word of the GC government, they'd have to be stupid. A bit like you trusting Turkey actually...

[kafenes]

In another thread I said the GC's should choose the high road and allow the TC's to cross. The GC's did and scored +1 in the eyes of the world.

Now the TC's (or the Turkish occupying forces I guess since they are effectively holding the TC's hostage as well as 37% of the island) refuse to return the favour. This will render more negative points than the GC's scored positive ones. This is just further proof to the rest of the world who the real aggressor is. It's undeniable proof that the Turks are the unreasonable ones.

I feel very sorry for the true TC's who are unable to see that they are victims of Turkey. And I'm even more sorry for those who know the shit they're stuck in but are too afraid to do or even say something about it. Ordinary people are victims of Turkish military and an elite of TC politicians who sold their soul, 37% of Cyprus and their countrymen to the invader.

It's tempting to close the crossings, I can appreciate that... this was also my first reaction when reading these news. But I'm not so sure anything good will come from closing them. It's a gamble. It could mean that the thousands that cross everyday for work will take up residence in the south rightfully as humanist said. But it could also backfire and alienate the TC's even more (those crossing every day for work in particular) which would inevitably lead to additional support for permanent partition and the demands for international recognition of the 'TRNC'.

Those crossing for work on a daily basis are obviously comfortable enough to be working for and with GC's. The step from that to actually live side by side with GC's should be a rather small step. But closing the crossings could very well cause these people to have a knee jerk reaction themselves and then take a huge leap backwards. Instead of running for the RoC and the work there they could just as well end up with resentment for the government that 'took away their livelihood'. Like I said, it's a gamble... with high stakes.

Do the GC's really want to risk losing their 'TC allies'? Remember, these are people who actually know, by personal experience, that the GC's aren't murderous genocidal monsters who wish to eradicate TC's from Cypriot soil once and for all. They're a valuable resource in finding and supporting a fair solution and the key to making things work once Cyprus is reunited. These TC's are the ones that will help those that still fear the GC's understand that they're all Cypriots and religion and ancestry are superficial things at the end of the day if you want to make a country successful and prosperous.

I say, keep a steady course on the high road. Turkey has shown its true face once again. The house of cards will one day collapse. The UN are watching, so is the EU. I bet soon enough the US will harden its stance towards Turkey as well. I think it's important to show the world, and the key players, that the RoC is playing fair. Then everybody, including the blind, will see that the 'TRNC' is nothing but a Turkish puppet show and the Turks will be unveiled as the unreasonable invaders they certainly are after 34 years of holding 37% of Cyprus hostage.

You all know more and more TC's are beginning to share this view somewhat. They're starting to realise that they're held hostage by Turkish military. They woke up one day and saw that they were a minority among mainland Turks. They see how those in charge are trying to wash the TC Cypriotness away and transform everybody into obedient Turks loyal to nobody but the Turkish 'deep state'. This 'awakening of the oppressed' is very important, I'd say crucial, to the final solution of the Cyprus problem... not to mention the development of a reunited Cyprus. When GC's and TC's alike think of themselves as Cypriots there will be no mainland Turks left on the island!

Agios Ionas, good post, I realise that this is manipulation from Turkey and they would want nothing more then the GCs to react like I did when I first read the article. It pisses me off though when it mentions the TCs and not the Turkish army.

[zan]

I tell you what...Why don't you send over your president over to ask if he can be president of all of Cyprus and hen we say no you can all cry like little spoiled children.......

No settlement has been agreed yet so why are your henchmen being sent to stir up trouble before the talks......

[kafenes]

I tell you what...Why don't you send over your president over to ask if he can be president of all of Cyprus and hen we say no you can all cry like little spoiled children.......

No settlement has been agreed yet so why are your henchmen being sent to stir up trouble before the talks......

Zan, the point is, why won't they return the good will gesture and allow the pilgrims to cross Limnitis?

[zan]

I tell you what...Why don't you send over your president over to ask if he can be president of all of Cyprus and hen we say no you can all cry like little spoiled children.......

No settlement has been agreed yet so why are your henchmen being sent to stir up trouble before the talks......

Zan, the point is, why won't they return the good will gesture and allow the pilgrims to cross Limnitis?

I think that everything should be frozen as it is until there is a decision on where we are going so that people like that do not use every opportunity to wreck the talks like this. I just hope that Christophias was not part of this sabotage and his comrade got a bollocking for trying to stir things up.

[repulsewarrior]

...closing the gates only demonstrates an intolerance that is quite like that of the enemy which has caused so much suffering.

Having the resolve to focus on Principals for which millions have died for, over this Modern Age, does not betray their sacrifice for us.

[humanist]

T_C

Yeah I'm ok thanks

We lasted for 30+ years so I don't know what would be so different if they closed them again.
We've gotten used to missing out on a lot of things and we've been through a lot worse than having some crossings being closed.

And we have been punished, by the GCs and Turkey OVER and OVER and OVER again.

No TC would trust the word of the GC government, they'd have to be stupid. A bit like you trusting Turkey actually...

I cannot believe that after the thousands of people who roam in the RoC from the occupied areas each and evry day you have come u with this valueless setence T-C. Firstly GC's are not punishing you, you are all punishing yourselves. We are the legal nation, we are under occupation from Turkey we sought support from the international arena and they have honoured humanitarian practice. How are we excactly punishing your people mate. Give a good reason and then I'll apologise.

If you are referring to the embargoes it ireallty is very simple, you stole my home under gun point, I can and have imposed economic embargo.

The GC governemnt gives opportunities to TC's who want to take the and they have, if they don't want to trust is simply their issue. They choose not trust, if they can trust RoC employers and the wealth it gives them, who runs the country.


It is not a bit like not us not trusting Turkey we have very good reasons not to trust Turkey she entered illegally killed and pilalaged, kicked 200,000 people out of their homes and that is the reason we do not trust Turkey.

[T_C]

T_C

Yeah I'm ok thanks

We lasted for 30+ years so I don't know what would be so different if they closed them again.
We've gotten used to missing out on a lot of things and we've been through a lot worse than having some crossings being closed.

And we have been punished, by the GCs and Turkey OVER and OVER and OVER again.

No TC would trust the word of the GC government, they'd have to be stupid. A bit like you trusting Turkey actually...

I cannot believe that after the thousands of people who roam in the RoC from the occupied areas each and evry day you have come u with this valueless setence T-C. Firstly GC's are not punishing you, you are all punishing yourselves. We are the legal nation, we are under occupation from Turkey we sought support from the international arena and they have honoured humanitarian practice. How are we excactly punishing your people mate. Give a good reason and then I'll apologise.

If you are referring to the embargoes it ireallty is very simple, you stole my home under gun point, I can and have imposed economic embargo.

The GC governemnt gives opportunities to TC's who want to take the and they have, if they don't want to trust is simply their issue. They choose not trust, if they can trust RoC employers and the wealth it gives them, who runs the country.


It is not a bit like not us not trusting Turkey we have very good reasons not to trust Turkey she entered illegally killed and pilalaged, kicked 200,000 people out of their homes and that is the reason we do not trust Turkey.

Funny how you forget thats exactly what eoka was doing to us, with the blessings of the GC government...