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[humanist]

Deniz

Nikitas, I am aware of what you are saying. It does irritate me that GCs have not the same rights in the North as the TCs have in the south. That is why I will never trust the 'goodwill' of the Northern Administration. As we say, double standards at its best. I am not saying that the south is a 'paradise' either.

Thanks for the acknowledgement and to take it further no the RoC is not paradise by any means.

[Viewpoint]

VP you are a bullshit artist. You have never once stated precisely what safeguards you want. Name them so we the dumb GC's can get it and see if we can offer the safeguards your community requires for a united Cyprus under a BBF. We have hijacked and exploited for 45 years? who has excluded 200,000 people from their homes and 800,000 from part of their country?

A BBF with political equality of the 2 states north and south and no armies.

Your hijacking in 1963 was the cause of 1974, you reeped what you sowed the one time we had the opportunity to build a Cypriot people you had hidden agendas, where were you when we lost our homes and lived in fear?

If you are confident that the safe guards we demand will become redundent then why do you oppose them so much? Obviously you do not want any arangements that will restrict your controlling the island without our effective input.

[repulsewarrior]

VP, again, I refer you to my Manifesto...

[utu]

There have been a number of reports from various sites attesting to Greek Cypriots in the north (the enclaved in the Karpass Peninisula) being ill-treated, and also reports about Turkish Cypriots facing discrimination in the south. This is not unusual given the polarization of the two 'camps'. Doesn't exactly help the reconciliation effort, does it?

[humanist]

VP you are stillnot letting this dumb GC's understand what you mean by political equality. Or for that matter what safeguards you want. Just humour me for a minute and spell it out for me.

[denizaksulu]

VP you are stillnot letting this dumb GC's understand what you mean by political equality. Or for that matter what safeguards you want. Just humour me for a minute and spell it out for me.

Good luck with your request for clarification Humanist.

[humanist]

Deniz, are we speaking the same language? why doesn't anybody hear?

[denizaksulu]

Deniz, are we speaking the same language? why doesn't anybody hear?

Me and you on a different planet, maybe. 'Hardliners' are just that; whatever side they are. Take and NO give.

[Kikapu]

Have been living in Cyprus for some years now and have heard statements like the 3 below on several occasions.

1) " The GC's treated the TC's as second class citizens and looked down on them."

2) "The partition of Cyprus is a very sad state of affairs..but lets face it..the GC's asked for what they got in 1974."

3) "We treated the TC's like scum because they are scum."

Comments such as these I have heard from...GC's....TC's...English...English Cypriots.

Personally I have no idea how TC's were treated prior to 74 since I did not live here at that time.

My question therefore is this...Were the TC's treated fairly by the GC's prior to 74...?

Yes they were treated very badly by the majority Im ld enough to remember being treated as second class citizens at airports crossing points, beaches shopping areas etc, after agreeing to a new constitution which the GCs had not intention of maintaining they throw us out of government and had an hidden agenda to gift Cyprus to Greece which put us in danger so we fought back with Turkeys help but GCs will never admit this because if they do it will only support why we do not trust them one inch and need our own part of the island to administer with plenty of safeguards so that neither side is allowed to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Im ld enough to remember being treated as second class citizens at airports crossing points, beaches shopping areas etc, after agreeing to a new constitution

What's the matter VP, did you forget that you were born in the UK in 1962/3 and that you did not move to Cyprus until 1992 at the ripe old age of 30. So how were you persecuted and treated as a second class citizen going through Ercan airport and the crossings, which did not open until 2003, and enjoying the beaches in the north with 40,000 Turkish Troops. Your fabricated story is as bad, if not worse than Liar Soyer's who claimed to have been taken as a prisoner by the EOKA in Kücük Kaymakli in 1963. Liar Soyer refuse to apologize for his lies and instead took off. Are you going to apologize for your lies VP, or are you going to leave us also.??

I'll be waiting for your full apology for making a inaccurate statement VP. Please do me a favour and don't make it last 20 pages of game playing with me to try and wear me down. It did not work for Liar Soyer and it will not work for you, so please don't waste any one's time and lets have your apology pronto for telling a lie.

Still waiting for VP to clarify his claim.

[alekcen]

Dont you guys think is about time to wake from the fairytale that they teach you? We didnt just wake up one morning and we saw the "bad" Turks invading without any reason .

Lets not forget about us breaking the 1960s constitution , nor forget Akritas plan, nor 1963, or 1967. They suffered too, and durring that period we treated the TC community as second class citizens.

Lets also not forget some of the plans that eoka b leader had, as well as with the cooperation of many other nationalist. This plan was double union. Allowing Turkey to occupy a part of Cyprus and the rest would have been Unified with Greece. Thats what some of the people we celebrate as heroes now tried to do. And u guys u continue on the same path, wanting partition.

We must accept our responsibilities in order to find a solution.