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[RAFAELLA]

When are we going to learn that being good and showing goodwill all the time will lead us nowhere.

Cyprus president's aide walks out of meeting

Famagusta Gazette 29.AUG.08
Greek Cypriot top aide to the president has walked out of a meeting with his Turkish Cypriot interlocutor after he was told that the Turkish Cypriot regime will not allow Greek Cypriot pilgrims access to a Turkish occupied church to pray.

Presidential Commissioner George Iacovou walked out of the meeting with Ozdil Nami, advisor to Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat, after the UN Secretary General`s Special Representative in Cyprus Taye Brook Zerihoun announced the Turkish Cypriot decision to refuse Kato Pyrgos village citizens permission to pass through Limnitis on an organised pilgrimage to Saint Mamas.

Iacovou said,"this of course is sad news"` and described it as a "provocative decision," adding that he decided he could not continue his scheduled meeting with Nami and walked out.

Asked if this was a bad omen in view of the commencement of direct negotiations between the leaders of the two communities on September 3, Iacovou said, "we must keep calm."

He added that President of the Republic Demetris Christofias has been informed of the developments. - (KYPE)


Pyrgos residents threaten to block road in checkpoint delay protest
RESIDENTS of Pyrgos yesterday threatened a blockade to prevent Turkish Cypriots crossing to Kokkina this year unless Greek Cypriots are allowed to use the same road for their annual pilgrimage to Ayios Mammas church in occupied Morphou.

The message was clear from Costas Michaelides, the community leader of Pyrgos, one of the most north-westerly points on the island. If Greek Cypriots were not allowed to cross, Turkish Cypriots would also be stopped, he said after a meeting with Presidential Commissioner George Iacovou yesterday.

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Peaceful protest as Turkish Cypriots cross Limnitis for memorial
OVER 1,000 Turkish Cypriots in 58 buses crossed through Limnitis yesterday to the former Kokkina enclave to mark the anniversary of what they term a victory over Greek Cypriots in 1964, when Turkey carried out an aerial bombardment of the area.

Some 300 Greek Cypriots from Kato Pyrgos staged a peaceful protest at the same time. The held up banners saying “Freedom of movement for all Cypriots” and “Limnitis crossing for peace”.
.... Greek Cypriots are aggrieved that Turkish Cypriots are allowed to cross at Limnitis while they are still waiting for the Turkish side to give them permission to cross through the same road to attend a church service in Morphou next month.

The Turkish side said if there are no ‘technical problems’, the pilgrims could cross next month.

The Pyrgos residents had planned to block the road yesterday but were talked out of it by the government and the Church in the longer term interests of having the Limnitis crossing opened permanently. It is not ready to become an ‘official’ crossing point yet, even though Turkish Cypriots have been let through in the past two years. Previously they had to visit Kokkina by boat.

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And do not forget to light your candle for ....PEACE, my Tc compatriots!

[pantheman]

Its what I have been saying all along, we are too good and it is now biting us in the ass.

I would like to know what Bananiot and Alekcen have to say about this, as they are the staunch supporters of the occupying forces.

Well lads, anything to add???? So much for the goodwill gestures huh?? Come Halil wheres the News from the Illegally Held Areas, thanks guys, thanks.

But then again I didn't expect much anyway

[Bananiot]

That is exactly the good news you were waiting for, idiot. You are over the moon with joy because the Turkish generals are behaving in a stupid way which suits you find, idiot.

Okay then, on Monday we will light the candle for war. Thank you Turkish generals for showing us the alternative path.

P.S. I assume the Turkish army is responsible for this.

[boomerang]

That is exactly the good news you were waiting for, idiot. You are over the moon with joy because the Turkish generals are behaving in a stupid way which suits you find, idiot.

Okay then, on Monday we will light the candle for war. Thank you Turkish generals for showing us the alternative path.

P.S. I assume the Turkish army is responsible for this.

Thats the best you can do Bananiot...how do you know it was the turkish generals...have you got anyproof?...

Lets say for arguments sake it was the generals...why then not hold a candle demonstration against this decision?...

What I see is what is mine is mine and what is yours is also mine...
Where is the Peace movement with all the candles...

And the boy from bayarak is silent on this...I wonder why?

[Nikitas]

The army is responsible, are you sure? What military problem would be caused by a few hundred people crossing where thousands had crossed a few days before? None, so do not be in a hurry to blame the army and absolve the TC leadership.

And if the army is to blame then what role does the TC leadership play in the north and by extension in the talks about Limnitis? Why not be honest and not have talks to begin with. Unless it was a ruse to get permission to cross to Kokkina when they knew they had nothing to offer in exchange.

[boomerang]

What Bananiot fails to see is that the legacy of Paps is proven right again...If we take Bananiots angle and blame the generals then clearly we are negotiating with the wrong people...and this is what good old Paps was saying all along...and how right he was...

Talat is nothing but a glorified messenger boy...I just hope the tcs see and act accordingly...

You can't have it both ways Bananiot...

[Bananiot]

Probably it is the army. This may be inferred from Sarica's statement that "there is no odofragma at Limnitis but a huge military area". The Turkish Cypriots are not exactly overjoyed by this development. Only the rejectionists of both sides are happy and anyone can tell why.

[Bananiot]

So boomerang, you suggest we stop negotiating with the Turkish Cypriots and demand negotiations with the Turkish army. Obviously you have not realised yet that the army is against negotiations because they think the problem was solved in 1974.

[boomerang]

Probably it is the army. This may be inferred from Sarica's statement that "there is no odofragma at Limnitis but a huge military area". The Turkish Cypriots are not exactly overjoyed by this development. Only the rejectionists of both sides are happy and anyone can tell why.

o'RLY then how come they were able to drive in on the buses from the north?...ever wonder about that?

You can't make that assumption coz the kid from bayarak hasn't informed us yet...and between you, me and the goalpost I doubt it very much he will be posting anything but propaganda...

[boomerang]

So boomerang, you suggest we stop negotiating with the Turkish Cypriots and demand negotiations with the Turkish army. Obviously you have not realised yet that the army is against negotiations because they think the problem was solved in 1974.

Bananiot if the generals do not want a solution then we are pissing in the wind...simple as that...No messenger boy is gonna deliver anything...On top of that, the messenger boy just had a trip to "turkey=fascist state" getting his instructions in triplicate...

Oh they want a solution alright...where the governed the whole of Cyprus...we, generals, get everything and you, us, get nothing...This is the policy they are persuing...Clear as mud...Blind freddy can see this Bananiot...

I just feel sorry for the true Cypriots in the north trapped in the middle...