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[humanist]

and soon we will be at 2050 and still in same situation because as we are seeing right now Turkey will prevent any unification unless the GC side makes allowance for Turkey to remain an active member in Cyprus hence causing trouble in the future.

[repulsewarrior]

humanist, in this battle we can only act in a manner which is Cypriot.

halil, whatever you may think says it again.

something which for all of us is essential and true.

who will go to light candles for peace will go, to light candles for peace.

...i know the subtleties of words, and when they are used to promote one view over another; i think the dialog creates more questions which when considered rationally for the most part provide answers which are completely different to the original aspirations of the adversaries. either way you have to 'be there' or remain unheard.

...at Limnitis another 'wrong' occurred, but two wrongs do not make a right. this through our acts must be made abundantly clear without dismissing the need for respect even in the face of such intolerance.

[humanist]

warrior I hear what you are saying .... I am not sure I have understood fully what you are saying. The situation though is as such we allow them to cross over the green line for work, shopping, socialising, claiming their propertis, living in their properties, we allow them to cross over and hold celebrations of Turkish invassion aganst their GC brothers/ sisters, they dishoonour that by not reciprocating. They can light as many candles as they like so far as I am concerned.

What the Turks do not realise is that GC's and TC's in diaspora we get along well, we have friends that we now visit evertime we return to Cyprus and they tell us of what they face and they tell us of the Cyprus they want and most of them say the same thing, they are fed up with settlers and the benefits they get primarily free accommodation, they are sick and tired of the fact they are out numbers and in essence have acheived nothing, and the fact that a return to the 1960's constitution with some changes would be the best options for TC's particularly under the new Turkish rule.

[Viewpoint]

warrior you are talking to yourself yet again, how many of these peace loving candle lighters have you seen in this thread, support the Pyrgos people or infact all Cypriots by even mentioning the wrong actions decided by the army. And then you have people like halil taliking about those people? Referring excactly to whom halili those people that your community leadership and occupiers have kept away from their homes and country, those people that you want out of their homes so that you can build one. If that is fairness then the fuck with it all why would I want to share a neighbourhood with you, Zan or VP. You have a blinded GC Bananiot pushing your trolley as you have siught an ally in the Irish cheeck and you are calling for peace at the same time excluding people from their nation. Where is your patritism halil and friends? I wonder if omeone rich enough ever build you an Island beween Cyprus and Turkey would you call it your own ? because it sure as hell indicates to me that you have no allegiance to Cyprus.

Not the GC Cyprus called the "RoC" we were kicked out of that 45 years ago and our rights stolen and exploited by guess who?

[humanist]

yeap thats the one, you envy so much

[Kikapu]

From what I have gathered so far as to who will be attending the candle light vigil for a "settlement" on September 1st, as far as the forum members are concerned, are the same regurgitated supporters of the Annan Plan. Perhaps someone should have warned them, that this is not Annan Plan Revisited. No no no, because the original Annan Plan has been resting in peace for the last 4 years and it ain't coming back.!

[paliometoxo]

warrior you are talking to yourself yet again, how many of these peace loving candle lighters have you seen in this thread, support the Pyrgos people or infact all Cypriots by even mentioning the wrong actions decided by the army. And then you have people like halil taliking about those people? Referring excactly to whom halili those people that your community leadership and occupiers have kept away from their homes and country, those people that you want out of their homes so that you can build one. If that is fairness then the fuck with it all why would I want to share a neighbourhood with you, Zan or VP. You have a blinded GC Bananiot pushing your trolley as you have siught an ally in the Irish cheeck and you are calling for peace at the same time excluding people from their nation. Where is your patritism halil and friends? I wonder if omeone rich enough ever build you an Island beween Cyprus and Turkey would you call it your own ? because it sure as hell indicates to me that you have no allegiance to Cyprus.

Not the GC Cyprus called the "RoC" we were kicked out of that 45 years ago and our rights stolen and exploited by guess who?

by turkey.... no one forced turkey to invade you peple did it all on your own and proclaimed a trnc.. you have no one to blame but yourselvs...

even now turkey is trying to take more and mroe and give nothing back.. its all take with you turks, if your unhappy go back to turkey. trnc depends on turkey for EVERYTHING whats the point on you "tcs" being in cyprus? there are more turks from turkey in the edn the north will just be turkey number 2 with no tcs left, you tcs are minorities in your own "country" with no say at what will happen, mamma turkey has ALL the say and there is nothing you people can do about it.

its TMTs fault for starting the war by bombing turkish cypriots in cyprus to make you think it was us that did it... you expect eoka to sit and do nothign when you steal and break shops and houses for no reason? for something TMT did to start fights and have an excuse to invade and steal our land??? you turks arew barbarians..

i hope there is partition then that line will be taken down to lower then 30% lets see all the turks living in the north squashed into a tiny part of the island..

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed a partition is unlikely to be the 'fait accompli' we have today.

our security will be based on a militarily fortifed border with the opportunity for a violent escalation of this situtation. things will not stay the same in any case. Cypriots will be abbrogated to a position where they are the victims again as the tensions between adversaries plays out as another proxy war (armed and economic) between them.

[paliometoxo]

bu i there is parittion the turkish troops have to pull back to under 30% of the island

[Viewpoint]

warrior you are talking to yourself yet again, how many of these peace loving candle lighters have you seen in this thread, support the Pyrgos people or infact all Cypriots by even mentioning the wrong actions decided by the army. And then you have people like halil taliking about those people? Referring excactly to whom halili those people that your community leadership and occupiers have kept away from their homes and country, those people that you want out of their homes so that you can build one. If that is fairness then the fuck with it all why would I want to share a neighbourhood with you, Zan or VP. You have a blinded GC Bananiot pushing your trolley as you have siught an ally in the Irish cheeck and you are calling for peace at the same time excluding people from their nation. Where is your patritism halil and friends? I wonder if omeone rich enough ever build you an Island beween Cyprus and Turkey would you call it your own ? because it sure as hell indicates to me that you have no allegiance to Cyprus.

Not the GC Cyprus called the "RoC" we were kicked out of that 45 years ago and our rights stolen and exploited by guess who?

by turkey.... no one forced turkey to invade you peple did it all on your own and proclaimed a trnc.. you have no one to blame but yourselvs...

even now turkey is trying to take more and mroe and give nothing back.. its all take with you turks, if your unhappy go back to turkey. trnc depends on turkey for EVERYTHING whats the point on you "tcs" being in cyprus? there are more turks from turkey in the edn the north will just be turkey number 2 with no tcs left, you tcs are minorities in your own "country" with no say at what will happen, mamma turkey has ALL the say and there is nothing you people can do about it.

its TMTs fault for starting the war by bombing turkish cypriots in cyprus to make you think it was us that did it... you expect eoka to sit and do nothign when you steal and break shops and houses for no reason? for something TMT did to start fights and have an excuse to invade and steal our land??? you turks arew barbarians..

i hope there is partition then that line will be taken down to lower then 30% lets see all the turks living in the north squashed into a tiny part of the island..

Better the Turks than the GCs, 29% is acceptable to us you are the ones having problems accepting agreed partition.