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Compensation Committees have started to operate in the North

Postby brother » Wed May 11, 2005 5:05 pm

Compensation Committees have started to operate in the occupied areas
Under the title: "Bureau for Turkish property in the South has commenced its operations" Turkish Cypriot "CYPRUS TIMES" newspaper (10.05.05) reports, inter alia, the following:

"The first applications by Greek Cypriots to receive compensation for properties in the north that they were forced to abandon, have been made to the commission that was formed recently, and it is expected that these applications will be resolved in the months ahead. No information about the identities or number of the applying Greek Cypriots was divulged.

On the other hand, the bureau that will handle the restitution for Turkish Cypriots concerning properties in the south started operating today and accepted its first applications.

Hatice Sadik who is at present living in the UK made the first application to the bureau this morning. Sadik lodged a complaint through her son Huseyin Sadik concerning two separate properties in the village of Polemidhia, one of which was expropriated for road construction and the other, which was used for constructing a house.

The Bureau for Turkish Property in the south has been set up in the same building as the Commission for the Compensation of Immovable Property opposite the courts in Nicosia, and is attached to the Attorney General's office. The Bureau will be administered by State Prosecutor Gulser Akanyeti, and will employ the services of solicitors Zeki Bayram, Ergin Ulunay and Gursel Kadri to follow proceedings in south Cyprus.

Attorney General Akin Sait held a press conference at his office today to announce the incorporation of the bureau and also gave information concerning the activities of the Commission for the Compensation of Immovable Property abandoned by Greek Cypriots in the north.

"All Turkish Cypriots that feel they have endured injustice due to property they had to abandon in the south will be able to apply to the bureau by simply filling out a form concerning their title deeds", Sait stated.

The Attorney General further explained that Turkish Cypriots would also be able to apply to the bureau concerning compensation for movable assets such as stocks and company shares they abandoned after 1974.

The bureau will conduct investigations on behalf of the applicants and request compensation from the Greek Authority. All expenses will be covered by the state", Sait added.

Over the past two years it has been determined that approximately 600 properties have been expropriated.

Attorney General Akin Ait stated that the first applications for resolving the issue of Greek properties in the north through either compensation or exchange have been accepted. Despite persistent questions from the press, Sait refused to divulge any information concerning the identities or number of Greek Cypriots that have applied to the commission.

Akin Said said: "Greek Cypriots that apply to the commission are being threatened in the south and they are being prevented from entering the north. That is why we are resolute in not giving out names".

"Applications made by Greek Cypriots will be investigated and decided within a few months of the application," stated Sait, adding that it was a legal obligation to pay the settled amount within one month of the decision.

When asked how the necessary resources for compensation would be found, Sait responded: "This is matter for the state. If the state thought it would be unable to find the necessary resource, the state wouldn't have prepared such legislation".

"After 1974, these properties were expropriated, but the owners were not paid", said Sait. And when confronted with the fact that it is in breach of the constitution to pay compensation for loss of use concerning expropriated property, Akin Sait replied: "I respect this opinion but don't agree with it. There was no demand at the time of expropriation; the request is recent and will be paid now. The time lapsed will be made up for".

According to applicable legislation, Greek Cypriots can apply for compensation or the exchange of land they abandoned in the north by paying a 100 Million TL application fee to the Commission for the compensation of Immovable Property".
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Re: Compensation Committees have started to operate in the N

Postby turkcyp » Wed May 11, 2005 5:24 pm

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Postby metecyp » Wed May 11, 2005 5:58 pm

turkcyp wrote:p.s. Of course by the way it was a pure luck that majority of expropriations on done in south for civil projects turn out to be TC properties. Source? Some things can not be said.

Well, I think both sides are guilty in terms of other community's properties. For example. my grandfather used to have 2 flats in Nicosia and he couldn't access them after 1963 and we learned that they were demolished. Who knows why...To put it bluntly, the difference is that the GC side covered their ass better than us. They didn't issue new titles, instead they rented them for peanuts, they left a tiny theoretical open door for a TC refugee to get his/her property back to avoid legal issues...so they covered their ass better than us.
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Postby magikthrill » Wed May 11, 2005 6:11 pm

how does this property compensation work for GCs exactly? since no other country in the world aside from Turkey recognize the gov't of the north if a GC "accepts" to receive compensation from this board and they still have the legal rigths to the house arent the TCs getting screwed over.

and most importantly...
where is this money coming from??
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Postby metecyp » Wed May 11, 2005 6:20 pm

how does this property compensation work for GCs exactly?

We don't really know if it works or not because I don't think any GCs applied for it. I'm not sure where money will come from either. I consider this as another delaying tactic. They might be ready to handle 100-200 GCs but there's no way they can compensate thousands of GCs. It's just a little delaying tactic before a comprehensive solution in my opinion.
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Postby turkcyp » Wed May 11, 2005 10:07 pm

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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 11, 2005 10:26 pm

turkcyp wrote:Everybody comes here and talks about legality this and legality that but fails to realize that in the long run politics is the one that makes the laws. Power as Piratis puts it. Right now GCs thinks that they got Turkey by the balls due to Turkey’s desire to join EU. That is why many like Piratis thinks that power is changing hands and time is working in their favor. (Hell some even may be Piratis thinks that Turkey will be torn into pieces in next 1-15 years) We will see all this?


Yes Turkcyp, politics make the laws and politics solve the problems. I agree with you. But in our case they didn’t work. How could they have worked if your side has always been hidden behind the power of Turkey, in order to demand the moon and the stars?
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Postby metecyp » Wed May 11, 2005 10:49 pm

Kifeas wrote:Yes Turkcyp, politics make the laws and politics solve the problems. I agree with you. But in our case they didn’t work. How could they have worked if your side has always been hidden behind the power of Turkey, in order to demand the moon and the stars?

Well, whatever we demand, if it's more than 18%, it'll be moon and stars to you...and what you demand, if it's doesn't provide some safeguards for TCs, it'll be moon and stars for us. The question is can we meet in the middle?
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Postby Kifeas » Wed May 11, 2005 11:06 pm

metecyp wrote:
Kifeas wrote:Yes Turkcyp, politics make the laws and politics solve the problems. I agree with you. But in our case they didn’t work. How could they have worked if your side has always been hidden behind the power of Turkey, in order to demand the moon and the stars?

Well, whatever we demand, if it's more than 18%, it'll be moon and stars to you...and what you demand, if it's doesn't provide some safeguards for TCs, it'll be moon and stars for us. The question is can we meet in the middle?


With you perhaps yes! With Turkcyp I am affraid never!
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Thu May 12, 2005 1:33 am

because we believed that everything would be settled on the political tables.


Human rights for sale, human rights for sale

Come on down to the North Cyprus Refugee Compensation Commission and strike a deal-a-roony. (Yeee-HA!!!)

Now Listen to some of our satisfied customers:
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