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[garbitsch]

LOL LOL LOL Magik you're such a funny guy heheh

[magikthrill]

i try

[erolz]

Sir.

Hey erol is just fine

I commend you on your ability in remaining calm and collected throughout this forum, even under the greatest of provocation.

I try but do not always sucseed. The issues are higky emotive and humans are emotional creatures, myself as much as anyone. I do recognise however that emotion will not sole this problem, Rationality , realism and logic might be able to find a solution but not emotion so I do my best,

Whilst I am an exceptionally new "poster" I have been following with some interest the debates which have sometimes raged in this forum.

A belated welcome to the forums from me then.

One thing bothers me and it may be an irrational fear but I get the feeling that GCs actually want it ALL. They do not seem to want to share.

Is ALL of Cyprus their God given right?

I think you are right in identifying this as an irrational fear. Certainly Cyprus has been plagued by maixmal demands and maximal vision of the future that took no regard for the will and desires of those with different demands and visions. GC have very many and very real and valid 'complaints' today as far as I am concerned. TC also have similar. There are undoubtedly both GC and TC who still persue and long for maximal solutions but equally there are those that want to build a new and better future for CYprus and all it's people. In the round I think it is fair to say that TC have renounced their maixmal strategies (in their demostratios prior to referendum, their referendum vote and elections of talat etc) and that the GC have not (to anywhere near the same degree) in their continued support for TP - but these are generalisations and as such can be very misleading in my experience.

What saddens me I guess is that there is no one on either side that has managed to create a real progressive vision of a unifed Cyprus where TC and GC does not matter and that seeks ambitious goals and provides a vision of a Cyprus of Cypriots that leads the world. I would love to support such a 'movment' whatever side of the divide it came from but it simply does not existin any mainstream political sense on either side of the divde. We remain locked into a conciousness and ideolgoies of the past that have only failed and created the mess we live in today. This is a sad failure to me and a testment of our failure as Cypriots.

[Kifeas]

What saddens me I guess is that there is no one on either side that has managed to create a real progressive vision of a unifed Cyprus where TC and GC does not matter and that seeks ambitious goals and provides a vision of a Cyprus of Cypriots that leads the world. I would love to support such a 'movment' whatever side of the divide it came from but it simply does not existin any mainstream political sense on either side of the divde. We remain locked into a conciousness and ideolgoies of the past that have only failed and created the mess we live in today. This is a sad failure to me and a testment of our failure as Cypriots.

There is such a movement Erol.

New Cyprus Association.

http://www.newcyprusassociation.org.cy/

[erolz]

There is such a movement Erol.

New Cyprus Association.

http://www.newcyprusassociation.org.cy/

well i did say

"does not existin any mainstream political sense on either side of the divde"

[magikthrill]

this website seems pretty cool. i like that greek and turkish are first and then english.

[erolz]

this website seems pretty cool. i like that greek and turkish are first and then english.

I agree this effort is worthy and no doubt in due course I will register as a member. Where however are the thousands of Cypriots (TC and GC) alike out on the streets supporting such efforts? Where is the poltical voice on either side for such visions / agendas? No where as far as I can see

[metecyp]

I agree this effort is worthy and no doubt in due course I will register as a member. Where however are the thousands of Cypriots (TC and GC) alike out on the streets supporting such efforts? Where is the poltical voice on either side for such visions / agendas? No where as far as I can see

Do you know why this is the case? I was also involved in a bicommunal project before. It was called YEP (Youth Encounters for Peace) for Cyprus and we used to meet with GCs at Pyla and organize events and such. The main problem was as time went by, members got less and less interested. I feel like most Cypriots don't care to be involved in such events. Especially the young generation cares more about going around in daddy's car, getting drunk and so on. It's sad but it's true. I remember how hard it was to get people join to our events.

[suetoniuspaulinus]

Mr magikthrill

I don't think that you should believe ALL of Brothers translations.

Shame on you brother for leading our friend astray
( My Big Fat Greek Wedding? )

Could you run that bit about your Cyprus of the future again please erolz?

[suetoniuspaulinus]

[quoteDo you know why this is the case? I was also involved in a bicommunal project before. It was called YEP (Youth Encounters for Peace) for Cyprus and we used to meet with GCs at Pyla and organize events and such. The main problem was as time went by, members got less and less interested. I feel like most Cypriots don't care to be involved in such events.][/quote]

Yes Mr metecyp. I too have been involved in this type of activity and the results were disappointing, in as much as there was no real spirit of bicommunality.