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[Viewpoint]

and your still not seeing a penny VP.....................

You are the bigger losers here the 4 billion dollars refers to lost "RoC" revenues for not being able to enter Turkish docks. The income for Turkey is miniscule in comparison.

[Oracle]

Oracle,
The British Commonwealth would be better off in sorting out the Cyprus problem,as all member states of the British Commonwealth have made it clear to Turkey that their occupation of northern Cyprus is illegal - PURE & SIMPLE!

Aidan.

So the British Commonwealth with its band of divided, struggling, post-colonially impoverished countries are going to be ordered by Britain to "sort" out Turkey .... and the natives will gird their loins, take up their spears, get on the British-built trains and leave their countries (what an adventure!) to fight for a sister Commonwealth country (best remembered for providing Copper and Sulphur) that they have read about in their "School Map of the Commonwealth" gifted to them by the Missionaries.

Aidan thank you for the sentiment, but the whole world has made it clear that the Turkish occupation is illegal. Is the Commonwealth above that?

[iceman]

How effective has the UN been in solving the Cyprus Problem?

After 34 years the UN has proved ineffective in removing the invaders, despite countless Resolution breaches by Turkey.

Shouldn't we now relegate it to secondary status over our closer to home EU partners?

Is the fact that the UN is based in the US, influencing decision making?

With such a potential bias base, and knowing the detrimental influence of the US in Cyprus Politics, should we continue to put so much trust in the UN?

What has the UN delivered after over 3 decades?

If the Annan plan wasn't proof enough of its Bias ... what more proof do we need that it does not have the best interests of GCs at heart, but Turkey?

Time to ditch the UN as a Negotiating partner and bring in the EU!

Hahahahaha...In Turkish we say "lick the palm of your hand so that your balls don't swell"

keep wishing...
when it suits you "bring in the UN resolutions" when it doesn't suit you "Fuck UN,lets bring in EU"...
You think the world revolves around you don't you?

When you created the Cyprus problem there was no EU,so whatever solution there will be it will be through United Nations not European Union you joined..



now let me hear your next wish..

[Oracle]

How effective has the UN been in solving the Cyprus Problem?

After 34 years the UN has proved ineffective in removing the invaders, despite countless Resolution breaches by Turkey.

Shouldn't we now relegate it to secondary status over our closer to home EU partners?

Is the fact that the UN is based in the US, influencing decision making?

With such a potential bias base, and knowing the detrimental influence of the US in Cyprus Politics, should we continue to put so much trust in the UN?

What has the UN delivered after over 3 decades?

If the Annan plan wasn't proof enough of its Bias ... what more proof do we need that it does not have the best interests of GCs at heart, but Turkey?

Time to ditch the UN as a Negotiating partner and bring in the EU!

Hahahahaha...In Turkish we say "lick the palm of your hand so that your balls don't swell"

keep wishing...
when it suits you "bring in the UN resolutions" when it doesn't suit you "Fuck UN,lets bring in EU"...
You think the world revolves around you don't you?

When you created the Cyprus problem there was no EU,so whatever solution there will be it will be through United Nations not European Union you joined..

now let me hear your next wish..

Not so fast iceman .... I didn't say to ditch the UN Resolutions.

It is a matter of deciding what the UN's on-going role should be.

The UN is great as a professional witness, a gatherer of evidence like an unbiased policeman or detective on duty! These it presents as Resolutions which have been breached or up-held by the parties (Cyprus vs Turkey).

But when it comes to brain power, negotiating, evaluating the evidence, passing judgement and handing out the punishment towards a solution .... we don't let Police Constable Plod or Inspector Clouseau to do all that do we?

So why should the UN gather the evidence as a witness and then go on to be the judge too? ... or worse, prepare a solution based only on its own judgement without listening to Lawyers/Representatives ... resulting in something like the Annan Plan!

So the UN's role should be only to provide the evidence .... and the EU provides the lawyers, barristers to present our case and arbitrate or negotiate alongside us.

[humanist]

VP unless you're taking money from the treasury the biggest looser is you and the rest of TC's I wasn't refering to Turkey. OOooopps I forgot if it doesn't affect VP it dfoesn't affect the other 60,000 TC's. forgive me for my oversight

[Oracle]

VP unless you're taking money from the treasury the biggest looser is you and the rest of TC's I wasn't refering to Turkey. OOooopps I forgot if it doesn't affect VP it dfoesn't affect the other 60,000 TC's. forgive me for my oversight

Even their personal credit cards are paid by Turkey. The TCs are like dependent spouses asking for a credit limit increase whenever they want something. They have forgotten what it is like to earn money and have the Freedom to spend it as they wish. They are kept by their "sugar daddy" Turkey. Shame .... they were beginning to show so much promise as equals

BTW .... I know that video is a few years old .... but the women they showed in the "trnc" had headscarves on Were they Settlers?

[zan]

How effective has the UN been in solving the Cyprus Problem?

After 34 years the UN has proved ineffective in removing the invaders, despite countless Resolution breaches by Turkey.

Shouldn't we now relegate it to secondary status over our closer to home EU partners?

Is the fact that the UN is based in the US, influencing decision making?

With such a potential bias base, and knowing the detrimental influence of the US in Cyprus Politics, should we continue to put so much trust in the UN?

What has the UN delivered after over 3 decades?

If the Annan plan wasn't proof enough of its Bias ... what more proof do we need that it does not have the best interests of GCs at heart, but Turkey?

Time to ditch the UN as a Negotiating partner and bring in the EU!

Hahahahaha...In Turkish we say "lick the palm of your hand so that your balls don't swell"

keep wishing...
when it suits you "bring in the UN resolutions" when it doesn't suit you "Fuck UN,lets bring in EU"...
You think the world revolves around you don't you?

When you created the Cyprus problem there was no EU,so whatever solution there will be it will be through United Nations not European Union you joined..

now let me hear your next wish..

Not so fast iceman .... I didn't say to ditch the UN Resolutions.

It is a matter of deciding what the UN's on-going role should be.

The UN is great as a professional witness, a gatherer of evidence like an unbiased policeman or detective on duty! These it presents as Resolutions which have been breached or up-held by the parties (Cyprus vs Turkey).

But when it comes to brain power, negotiating, evaluating the evidence, passing judgement and handing out the punishment towards a solution .... we don't let Police Constable Plod or Inspector Clouseau to do all that do we?

So why should the UN gather the evidence as a witness and then go on to be the judge too? ... or worse, prepare a solution based only on its own judgement without listening to Lawyers/Representatives ... resulting in something like the Annan Plan!

So the UN's role should be only to provide the evidence .... and the EU provides the lawyers, barristers to present our case and arbitrate or negotiate alongside us.

In the hotel I was staying in I met a UN officer on holiday....A Scot....He said that he did not know what happened in Cyprus before 1974 until recently when he was posted to Cyprus. This is the story everywhere. Now our story is getting out to redress this wrong done to us......Your time is running out!!!!

[Kikapu]

and your still not seeing a penny VP.....................

You are the bigger losers here the 4 billion dollars refers to lost "RoC" revenues for not being able to enter Turkish docks. The income for Turkey is miniscule in comparison.

Are you prepared to gives us some figures VP, as to how much it's going to cost Turkey ( just from direct foreign investments alone) if their EU accession talks come to a dead end next year, if the Cyprus problem is not settled.?

As the saying goes,

"what goes around, comes around".!!

[zan]

and your still not seeing a penny VP.....................

You are the bigger losers here the 4 billion dollars refers to lost "RoC" revenues for not being able to enter Turkish docks. The income for Turkey is miniscule in comparison.

Are you prepared to gives us some figures VP, as to how much it's going to cost Turkey ( just from direct foreign investments alone) if their EU accession talks come to a dead end next year, if the Cyprus problem is not settled.?

As the saying goes,

"what goes around, comes around".!!

Companies have 80,000,000 people to sell their wears to...You do the math

[Kikapu]

and your still not seeing a penny VP.....................

You are the bigger losers here the 4 billion dollars refers to lost "RoC" revenues for not being able to enter Turkish docks. The income for Turkey is miniscule in comparison.

Are you prepared to gives us some figures VP, as to how much it's going to cost Turkey ( just from direct foreign investments alone) if their EU accession talks come to a dead end next year, if the Cyprus problem is not settled.?

As the saying goes,

"what goes around, comes around".!!

Companies have 80,000,000 people to sell their wears to...You do the math

Which companies are you talking about, foreign owned abroad or foreign owned in Turkey. Either way, foreign companies selling to the Turks and taking their profits out of Turkey, does not help Turkey other than taking the money from the Turks, or paying them "slave wages" to produce their products to sell abroad to make even bigger profits. The Turks are just barely making a living, which on average, it is less than the minimum wage in the "trnc". God forbid the Turks should ask for a living wage, which will see these companies head to other cheaper countries, and if the EU accession is terminated, watch the flood gates break open to leave Turkey altogether.