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Four arrest warrants issued over developments in north

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Postby MicAtCyp » Wed May 11, 2005 9:25 pm

wrote: will think about ten times before they can decide if they want to live together with GCs who does not want to leave them living space.


Living space on what? On our stolen properties? On the basis of your unilatteral exchange of your lands with ours when you know very well that your lands were 1/3 area wise of what you got and value wise only 1/20th?

If the TCs don't want to live with us (unless we donate them our properties) then better think twice. They can sell everything to the foreigners if they like, however I wonder what they will do after there will not be any more land to sell, and after there will not be any way to catch up the high cost of living the foreigners themselves will create, and after 15 years down the road they could possibly be abandoned by Turkey to their own fate.

The properties of the GCs WERE-ARE-AND WILL ALWAYS BE THEIRS!! The same illegal things happened to ex- East Germany and 70 years after the illegality is overthrown.

PS.By the way the ones who were sued are not just ordinary TCs who just use a GC house to live in.It is big crooks who turned the matter of stolen properties into a multimillion bussiness.
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Postby turkcyp » Thu May 12, 2005 4:19 am

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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu May 12, 2005 3:32 pm

Turkcyp wrote: One has a hotel (built on a TC land before 1974 I might add)


And he is sued for what?????? And by whom????
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Postby Kifeas » Thu May 12, 2005 5:20 pm

We constantly hear about this Aziz Kent arrest warrant, (I happened to have met him personally in Lapithos last summer,) but no one tells us who is after him in the first place and on what grounds? If his GC "partner" doesn't have a claim as it seems so from the letter Aziz has, then who pressed for the warrant? Does anyone know?
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Postby brother » Thu May 12, 2005 5:38 pm

It throws a lot of doubt at the accuracy of the ROC when it comes to title deeds if they can make a mistake like this.
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Postby Kifeas » Thu May 12, 2005 5:44 pm

turkcyp wrote:“I was told at the time that the only way I would get a building permit was if I got myself a Greek Cypriot management partner, ......
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Turkcyp,
I do not want to takes sides on this issue, but it is a well known fact that the RoC has been discriminating against TCs in some cases similar to the case of Aziz for security reasons.
What do I mean by that? It was a well known fact that Turkey, since 1969, was getting it self prepared militarily, for a sea landing operation in Cyprus. There was an increased accumulation of navy landing ships in naval bases opposite the north/north East coast of Cyprus. There were also a lot of information for possible landing spots, both in the north coast and in the east coasts of Cyprus. The GC National Guard was preparing it self militarily in order to confront such an attempted operation. All the north/north east and eastern coasts of Cyprus were literally filled with concrete bankers for cannons and machine gun posts. These are well known facts. Even today someone can walk along the kyrenia coast and find them there (one in almost every 100 meters.) For this and only this reason, the RoC was reluctant to grand licenses to TCs for hotels or any other facilities, which were to be situated on "sensitive" spots on the coast. Like for example the case of celebrity hotel which is situated on a relatively sm0oth beach, perfectly suitable for landing ships. To this end, the RoC in order to facilitate such requests by TCs would rather ask them to have a GC partner, fearing that such a hotel and it's front coast line might become a bridge head for a secret night time landing. I Personally do not agree with this practice as I find it to had been a bit over-exaggerated. Never the less, we all know how the climate was during those times. One of fear, mistrust and confusion.
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Postby Kifeas » Thu May 12, 2005 7:10 pm

turkcyp wrote:Dear Kifeas

So the price for your security was a 12 year lease on property management!

Sorry but I found it more reasonable to believe that GCs ruling the Kyrenia municipality did not want a TC to make an business investment that will help some TCs to develop economically rather than explaining the above with security reasons.


As always, you are allowed to believe anything you want. I know by fact that this was an issue. My property in Lapithos is only 500 meters from Celebrity hotel. The management leasing was not a 100% one but a shared one (on paper.) The management leasing was a figurative one in order to facilitate the building permit. The profits would have been taken by Aziz anyway, which fact makes your above argument completely invalid.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Fri May 13, 2005 9:50 am

Turkcyp,

You still did not provide me an answer as to who is sueing Asiz and for what? Is it really for the two hotels that seemingly are his or is it for something else????? And who the hell is the GC who sued him on the first place?

From the article you posted it seems to me that it is Asiz who is going to sue the RoC for including his hotels in their black list....Who said the RoC is not manned by a lot of idiots anyway?

Something fishy goes on in this story don't you think?
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