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Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:30 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Turkey as a nation that is vigorously promoting its EU accession process is clearly going to side with the West.

It is, in my view, highly significant that Merkel and Sarkozy, the most vociferous opponents of Turkish EU membership, have come out in strong support of Georgia in its conflict with Russia. I sense that a new game has started in which the goal is to increase Western influence in parts of the former Soviet Union. Georgia is a pawn in this game. In order to dangle the carrot of EU membership before Georgia, Turkey first needs to become a member. I expect Turkey's EU accession process to be fast tracked, and the major obstacle to this is Cyprus. Hence, I also expect this autumn's round of negotiations to produce a "miracle solution" that appears to have been the work solely of Cypriots, but in fact has been carefully engineered behind the scenes. Sadly, this will once again be a solution that serves the interests of Western imperialism. Don't forget that the latter views Turkey as an important strategic ally. This provides a clue as to which party is likely to benefit most from such a solution.

It may have been possible to create a solution that benefitted the people of Cyprus, rather than the Bilderbergs. However, when members of one community can do nothing but pour scorn on a well-meaning effort by a civil society organisation - one that has no ties with the Turkish or TRNC governments - composed of people in the other community who have a genuine commitment to reunification, and some of whose members have been outspoken critics of the Talat regime, involving the purely symbolic act of lighting candles in the name of a nebulous concept of "peace" that surely every human being can support, what hope is there? People who permit themselves to be divided and ruled get what they deserve.


Tim, please help me out here. I'm I suffering from Deja vu by reading your above post, or have you already made the same exact post couple of weeks ago on the forum. :?: :?:

Nothing wrong if you are re-posting it. I just wanted to know if I was not going nuts..............well, not too much anyway.! :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:31 pm

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Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:32 pm

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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:36 pm

I made a similar point in another thread, yes. Mea culpa. At least I am consistent. (No, I wont copy this and paste it several times, although I am tempted).
Actually, there are one or two different arguments in this post, too.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:56 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:I made a similar point in another thread, yes. Mea culpa. At least I am consistent. (No, I wont copy this and paste it several times, although I am tempted).
Actually, there are one or two different arguments in this post, too.


That's what I thought...............thanks.!
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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:00 pm

Turkish President Gül has accepted an invitation from the President of Armenia - a country with which Turkey has no diplomatic relations - to attend a football match in the Armenian capital on the 6th of this month. The two presidents are expected to engage in informal talks during the visit.
I think a very important new game is being played in the Caucasus, and Turkey is a key player. I don't think Turkey has any intentions of abandoning its alliance with the West.
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Re: Will Turkey Abandon NATO?

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:04 pm

...just to remind us, that this issue brews.
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Re: Will Turkey Abandon NATO?

Postby kurupetos » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:39 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...just to remind us, that this issue brews.

How? :?
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Re: Will Turkey Abandon NATO?

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:41 pm

...i suggest oil makes strange bedfellows, i suggest that Turkey has already demonstrated to NATO (and to the USA) that she is not 'married' to them.

...i suggest the Crimea may divide Europe (read: the Occidental world), against Russia; Turkey too, identifies itself with Asia.

...i suggest the Bosphorus, and the Montreux Treaty are up for grabs, to the highest bidder; for that Russia would be willing to pay.
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Re: Will Turkey Abandon NATO?

Postby Oceanside50 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:59 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...i suggest oil makes strange bedfellows, i suggest that Turkey has already demonstrated to NATO (and to the USA) that she is not 'married' to them.

...i suggest the Crimea may divide Europe (read: the Occidental world), against Russia; Turkey too, identifies itself with Asia.

...i suggest the Bosphorus, and the Montreux Treaty are up for grabs, to the highest bidder; for that Russia would be willing to pay.


The Bosporus strait is the most important waterway in the world and has been for thousands of years. The USA and NATO would scratch the devils eyes out to keep it in their hands. If Turkey chooses to leave Nato, then Greece could administer the straits very easily.
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