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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:39 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:I said it was the government that imposed the youtube ban, it is your assumption it was the Kemalists. But only because tess asked, why she got such a message

And I am not the one who has a problem with homosexuals, clearly the Turkish government does as they did the banning. Since you now finally accept Kemal was homosexual, perhaps you can enlighten your people to be more accepting and tolerant, instead of trying to erase the truth, again!



Since you are so keen on the truth, why dont you find out exactly why the site was banned instead of making insinuations. You are almost always wrong with your assumptions and insinuations. Get a life. :lol:


It was to prevent Turks from accessing anything the government/those really in power, saw as anti-Turkishness. A Freedom of speech issue which they are now having to re-address due to criticism from many Human Rights activists and EU governments ... as you know Deniz.



I dont see any of the great Turkish artistes being hung drawn and quartered for being gay. Would that be anti Turkish. We all know your ' modus operandi' dont we? Many Turks know whatever the truth is, so you are wasting your time and energy. The great man will always be right up there in your face. Live with it or let it go. The choice is yours.

Have a good day.


Then why don't you give us the Turkish version of why the Turkish government banned access to youtube in Turkey ... and from what tessintrnc has said... they have banned it in the "trnc" as well :lol:

Access to this web site is banned by "TELEKOMÜNİKASYON İLETİŞİM BAŞKANLIĞI" according to the order of: Ankara 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi, 05/05/2008 of 2008/402.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Where in that ruling does it mention that MKAtaturk was gay, and that is why the site was banned? Show me and I will kiss your hand in respect. :shock:


I'll repeat since you did not understand the first time ...

Then why don't you give us the Turkish version of why the Turkish government banned access to youtube in Turkey ... and from what tessintrnc has said... they have banned it in the "trnc" as well :lol:



OK. Post the ruling and I will translate for you. Is that fair?


and for Christs sake, it is YOU making these allegations. I have nothing to prove. The onus is on YOU.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:17 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:I said it was the government that imposed the youtube ban, it is your assumption it was the Kemalists. But only because tess asked, why she got such a message

And I am not the one who has a problem with homosexuals, clearly the Turkish government does as they did the banning. Since you now finally accept Kemal was homosexual, perhaps you can enlighten your people to be more accepting and tolerant, instead of trying to erase the truth, again!



Since you are so keen on the truth, why dont you find out exactly why the site was banned instead of making insinuations. You are almost always wrong with your assumptions and insinuations. Get a life. :lol:


It was to prevent Turks from accessing anything the government/those really in power, saw as anti-Turkishness. A Freedom of speech issue which they are now having to re-address due to criticism from many Human Rights activists and EU governments ... as you know Deniz.



I dont see any of the great Turkish artistes being hung drawn and quartered for being gay. Would that be anti Turkish. We all know your ' modus operandi' dont we? Many Turks know whatever the truth is, so you are wasting your time and energy. The great man will always be right up there in your face. Live with it or let it go. The choice is yours.

Have a good day.


Then why don't you give us the Turkish version of why the Turkish government banned access to youtube in Turkey ... and from what tessintrnc has said... they have banned it in the "trnc" as well :lol:

Access to this web site is banned by "TELEKOMÜNİKASYON İLETİŞİM BAŞKANLIĞI" according to the order of: Ankara 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi, 05/05/2008 of 2008/402.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Where in that ruling does it mention that MKAtaturk was gay, and that is why the site was banned? Show me and I will kiss your hand in respect. :shock:


I'll repeat since you did not understand the first time ...

Then why don't you give us the Turkish version of why the Turkish government banned access to youtube in Turkey ... and from what tessintrnc has said... they have banned it in the "trnc" as well :lol:



OK. Post the ruling and I will translate for you. Is that fair?


and for Christs sake, it is YOU making these allegations. I have nothing to prove. The onus is on YOU.


What allegations?

Don't you want to know what is happening in your country .... Oh I forgot Turkey keeps you in the dark!

Please read posts over the page. They are in English, saves you any trouble since you are struggling with comprehension!
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Postby zan » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:17 pm

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kafenes wrote:Thanks Zan, great pics. I like the indoor shots and the one with the numbered old doors (what was that place?). I particularly like the picture of the old motor bike.


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I wonder who it used to belong to?


One of the GC guys sitting just behind it you observant little minx you!! :roll:
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Postby zan » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:20 pm

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kafenes wrote:This one.


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I am wondering if it is part of the Ay. Andreas Monastery complex.

I need to check my old pics. Zan ought to know, but he must be at work now.


Thanks Kafenes and Deniz is right. Here is another view of it:



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Postby zan » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:23 pm

boomerang wrote:Oh I nearly forgot...

Hey Zan, you and and the family, have a bonza of a holiday...


Sadly it's over now Boomers but thanks anyway.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:27 pm

YouTube ban turns into mystery

Turkish Internet users welcomed the news claiming that the video sharing Web site YouTube was accessible from Turkey again after a 114-day ban, only to later hear from the Telecommunications Authority that the ban had not been lifted.

Telecommunications Authority Internet Department head Osman Nihat Şen said on Wednesday that the Telecommunications Authority Press Center's statement that "YouTube is online" was not true and added, "YouTube is not online."

Speaking on the NTV news station, Şen said: "We too were unable to figure it out. The Telecommunications Authority Press Center issued a written statement on this issue but did not ask about the situation. I mean, YouTube is not online." After news stories were aired by the media, the Telecommunications Press Center sent a written statement to the media on Tuesday, saying, "Because the content which caused YouTube to be blocked by Ankara's 11th High Criminal Court without any justification was taken off from YouTube, the court decided to permit access to the Web site. YouTube is now online."

When asked why YouTube was inaccessible from some parts of Turkey, the press center said, "This is not possible." However, Şen said on Wednesday that there was no court decision to lift the block on YouTube. "The prosecutor of the court did not ask the court to allow access to YouTube; no such decision was sent to us."

Şen's explanation created confusion among the public. Speaking with Şen, an NTV reporter said YouTube was accessible and asked how this was possible in light of the ban. Şen said, "I think there is a technical problem." He also noted that the court did not send any message saying that videos insulting Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the founder of the Turkish Republic, were taken off of YouTube.

YouTube was online on Tuesday for a limited time and for this reason Internet users thought the ban was lifted, but news came from the Telecommunications Authority's Web site to the contrary. The statement read: "Several media organs reported that YouTube was accessible from Turkey. These news stories are incorrect and serve to confuse the public. The YouTube Web site was blocked by a court decision and the ban can only be rescinded by another court decision."


28 August 2008, Thursday


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Postby zan » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:27 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:I said it was the government that imposed the youtube ban, it is your assumption it was the Kemalists. But only because tess asked, why she got such a message

And I am not the one who has a problem with homosexuals, clearly the Turkish government does as they did the banning. Since you now finally accept Kemal was homosexual, perhaps you can enlighten your people to be more accepting and tolerant, instead of trying to erase the truth, again!



Since you are so keen on the truth, why dont you find out exactly why the site was banned instead of making insinuations. You are almost always wrong with your assumptions and insinuations. Get a life. :lol:


It was to prevent Turks from accessing anything the government/those really in power, saw as anti-Turkishness. A Freedom of speech issue which they are now having to re-address due to criticism from many Human Rights activists and EU governments ... as you know Deniz.



I dont see any of the great Turkish artistes being hung drawn and quartered for being gay. Would that be anti Turkish. We all know your ' modus operandi' dont we? Many Turks know whatever the truth is, so you are wasting your time and energy. The great man will always be right up there in your face. Live with it or let it go. The choice is yours.

Have a good day.


Then why don't you give us the Turkish version of why the Turkish government banned access to youtube in Turkey ... and from what tessintrnc has said... they have banned it in the "trnc" as well :lol:

Access to this web site is banned by "TELEKOMÜNİKASYON İLETİŞİM BAŞKANLIĞI" according to the order of: Ankara 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi, 05/05/2008 of 2008/402.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Where in that ruling does it mention that MKAtaturk was gay, and that is why the site was banned? Show me and I will kiss your hand in respect. :shock:


I'll repeat since you did not understand the first time ...

Then why don't you give us the Turkish version of why the Turkish government banned access to youtube in Turkey ... and from what tessintrnc has said... they have banned it in the "trnc" as well :lol:



OK. Post the ruling and I will translate for you. Is that fair?


and for Christs sake, it is YOU making these allegations. I have nothing to prove. The onus is on YOU.


What allegations?

Don't you want to know what is happening in your country .... Oh I forgot Turkey keeps you in the dark!

Please read posts over the page. They are in English, saves you any trouble since you are struggling with comprehension!


Did you know that there is a Turkish version of YouTube???? :wink: :wink: :lol:

Your world is soooo small be! Stella.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:32 pm

zan wrote: ... Did you know that there is a Turkish version of YouTube???? :wink: :wink: :lol:

Your world is soooo small be! Stella.


Did you know anyone can do their own youtube sites ... :lol: ... Good for Turkey ... now no Turks need hear anything from the outside world! :lol:

TODAYSZAMAN wrote:YouTube ban turns into mystery


28th August 2008

Turkish Internet users welcomed the news claiming that the video sharing Web site YouTube was accessible from Turkey again after a 114-day ban, only to later hear from the Telecommunications Authority that the ban had not been lifted.

Telecommunications Authority Internet Department head Osman Nihat Şen said on Wednesday that the Telecommunications Authority Press Center's statement that "YouTube is online" was not true and added, "YouTube is not online."

Speaking on the NTV news station, Şen said: "We too were unable to figure it out. The Telecommunications Authority Press Center issued a written statement on this issue but did not ask about the situation. I mean, YouTube is not online." After news stories were aired by the media, the Telecommunications Press Center sent a written statement to the media on Tuesday, saying, "Because the content which caused YouTube to be blocked by Ankara's 11th High Criminal Court without any justification was taken off from YouTube, the court decided to permit access to the Web site. YouTube is now online."

When asked why YouTube was inaccessible from some parts of Turkey, the press center said, "This is not possible." However, Şen said on Wednesday that there was no court decision to lift the block on YouTube. "The prosecutor of the court did not ask the court to allow access to YouTube; no such decision was sent to us."

Şen's explanation created confusion among the public. Speaking with Şen, an NTV reporter said YouTube was accessible and asked how this was possible in light of the ban. Şen said, "I think there is a technical problem." He also noted that the court did not send any message saying that videos insulting Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the founder of the Turkish Republic, were taken off of YouTube.

YouTube was online on Tuesday for a limited time and for this reason Internet users thought the ban was lifted, but news came from the Telecommunications Authority's Web site to the contrary. The statement read: "Several media organs reported that YouTube was accessible from Turkey. These news stories are incorrect and serve to confuse the public. The YouTube Web site was blocked by a court decision and the ban can only be rescinded by another court decision."



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Postby SSBubbles » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:37 pm

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Postby halil » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:03 pm

Selamlar Zan ,
for a moment i am off from the work . pls send me web address of your friends that i can get in (send me PM)
from my home too .
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