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South Ossetia and Abkazia

Postby utu » Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:38 am

Looks like Russia is poised to recognize the UDI's of the Georgian breakaway regions of Abkazia and South Ossetia, judging from the unaminously approved resolution voted upon by the Russian Parliament. If Russia does so, is this going to impact the situation in Cyprus? The north has tried to get their Unilateral Declaration of Independence recognized since 1983. Thus far, only Turkey has acknowledged it.
Now the question is whether the north's silent allies (and there are a few within the OIC) will use Russian recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia as justification for coming out in open support of the north. Recognition of the north as a sovereign nation by other countries will effectively kill any chances of reunification, so the decision of the Russian President to decide whether or not to heed the resolution of his parliament could well spell disaster for Cyprus.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:37 am

On the contrary such move by Russia will remind the West about the importance of respecting the sovereignty of independent countries. It will remind them that if they use separatists in order to have gains (e.g. Kosovo) that the Russians can also use separatists to restore the balance.

Therefore now it will be even more impossible for the West to recognize the pseudo state. Russia, China or India will not recognize it either. So who will? Azerbaijan and Pakistan? Say they did. What would the pseudo state gain from this? Nothing. But those countries would have a lot to lose from their relationship with EU since Cyprus will retaliate and block several EU agreements with them.
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Postby Raymanoff » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:53 am

utu, i already posted this in another section... lazy to go thru the forum before posting?
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:36 am

Piratis, you stand accused of double standards.
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:48 am

In 1989, with the fall of the Soviet Union, Abkhazia had a population of 200 000 of which 45% were Georgian, 17,8% Abkhazian, 13.3% Russian, 14,6% Armenian and apparently 2.5% Greek .

Russia encouraged Abkhazia to declare independence in 1992 and a war broke out which was won by the Abkazians with the help of Russia. Ethnic cleansing followed the war with tens of thousand Georgians killed or kicked out of their ancestral homes. The ethnic cleansing of the Georgians is recognised by the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE).

In effect Russia created a pseudo state just like Turkey did with "trnc", but Piratis is a great democrat and great democrats are nothing but fakes when they self boast their democratic principles.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:50 am

What an absurd evaluation :?

Russia has demonstrated how swiftly and effectively it can restore sovereignty to invaded countries which house some of its Nationals.

Turkey should learn from this example as Russia and the EU are waiting for one false move or one too many demands from Turkey, and they will exercise their strength and capacity to restore full Democracy back to the RoC.

Cyprus would have been helped similarly if this freedom and atmosphere prevailed in the '70's.

More Russian Nationals to Cyprus please .....
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:06 pm

What a fool.
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Postby boomerang » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:36 pm

Bananiot wrote:What a fool.


niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice...you said you were a teacher?....I pity the students.... :wink:
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Postby Raymanoff » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:42 pm

More Russian Nationals to Cyprus please .....


35000 not enuf?
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Postby Raymanoff » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:21 pm

This is a moment where shit hits the fan.

14:05 - D.Medvedev Announced that Russia officially recognizes 2 breakaway regions and urged other countries to follow this move. Bush warned last night not to proceed with recognition. Moldova have another frozen conflict from the 90s (my aunt had to flee Chisinau with 2 babies and just 1 bag of belongings) which will be soon "defrosted"...
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