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Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:22 pm

So now Deniz equates all the TCs, Turks and Ottomans as "Moslems" .....
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Postby DT. » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:24 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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More Russian Nationals to Cyprus please .....


35000 not enuf?


Gosh really? .. :shock: that many? ... Why doesn't Russia come and remove the Turks for us then? Can you lot ask her to, please?



Just like the big bad bear did in Romania and Bulgaria? O what a wicked thought Oracle. You do love bloodshed. :shock: Dont you think we have had enough?


No I do not love bloodshed.

Your Turko-Ottoman troops have shed too much Greek and Cypriot blood over the centuries. It seems the Turks do not possess blood themselves, they are so hungry for ours!



Was not Boumbolina(your ancestor no doubt) a shedder of Turkish blood. :lol:


Boumboulia was a wealthy, sophisticated and powerful woman that fought for the independence of Greece from the Ottoman empire. A national hero to Greeks and not one that can be downgraded to simply a shedder of Turkish blood. I have heard many times from tc's that the Ottomans do not represent what Turkey is now and the one has little to do with the other. How can she have shed Turkish blood when there were no Turk then?


It was one of O's boasts. OK. Splitting hairs are we? Moslem blood will do.


The turkish army shedded muslim blood as well....do they get the same characterisations?
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:28 pm

DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Raymanoff wrote:
More Russian Nationals to Cyprus please .....


35000 not enuf?


Gosh really? .. :shock: that many? ... Why doesn't Russia come and remove the Turks for us then? Can you lot ask her to, please?



Just like the big bad bear did in Romania and Bulgaria? O what a wicked thought Oracle. You do love bloodshed. :shock: Dont you think we have had enough?


No I do not love bloodshed.

Your Turko-Ottoman troops have shed too much Greek and Cypriot blood over the centuries. It seems the Turks do not possess blood themselves, they are so hungry for ours!



Was not Boumbolina(your ancestor no doubt) a shedder of Turkish blood. :lol:


Boumboulia was a wealthy, sophisticated and powerful woman that fought for the independence of Greece from the Ottoman empire. A national hero to Greeks and not one that can be downgraded to simply a shedder of Turkish blood. I have heard many times from tc's that the Ottomans do not represent what Turkey is now and the one has little to do with the other. How can she have shed Turkish blood when there were no Turk then?


It was one of O's boasts. OK. Splitting hairs are we? Moslem blood will do.


The turkish army shedded muslim blood as well....do they get the same characterisations?



DT, you state that Boumbolina fought for Independence from the Ottoman Empire. How was this achieved? Without bloodshed? If not Turkish blood, whose blood was it? You tell me. Or was it a bloodless struggle. In that case Greek history books are wrong.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:33 pm

If you invade and slaughter natives during your Turko-Ottoman expansions ... do not then complain if those oppressed have to fight back to retain/regain their freedom!
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:08 pm

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Let me remind you, that the US elections are fought, won and lost on individual states and not by who gets the most votes in the whole country. In another words, if a candidate wins key states that has enough Electoral College votes that will push it to 270 and over, the game is over, regardless of the overall vote by individuals. Both Gore and Kerry lost the elections by handful of Electoral College votes where one small state can change the whole election outcome.!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Electoral_College

I'm fully aware of the electoral system Kikapu , I still however believe that come the day John McCain will win hands down !!


Hands down.?? That implies a sweep Miltiades, and we haven't had any "sweeps" for a while. Ronald Regan did have one against Carter, and that was primarily because American Hostages kept for 444 days in Iran and the failed rescue attempt, that resulted deaths of American servicemen. Then Clinton against Dole for his second term, and that was before "Lewinsky Gate". Overall, in resent history, elections have been very close and they are not decided 2-3 months before it takes place. So what you get today will not be on election day. Keep an open mind Miltiades. Yes it is true, that racism does exists in the USA still, but even my ex girlfriend, a life long Republican will be voting for Obama. She said to me on the phone the other day, that her parents will most likely turn in their graves because of it.!!

As for these cry baby women who claim to be Democrats but will vote for McCain because Hillary did not make it, are bunch of closet Republicans. The whole thing is a con job by the Republicans to make believe that they are Democrats. True Democrats vote for what the party stands for, not go and vote for a party that is totally against what you believe in, which are the Republicans. Therefore, I do not buy these silly fool women that will switch sides if they are really Democrats, because in the end, it will be them who will lose, just like all the environmentalist that voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 and not for Gore, and look how much Bush did for the environment.

Kikapu , I have placed my self neither on McCains side nor Obamas. I simply follow the political developments and feel that the Americans will reject a black President for the simple reason that most do not view him as a "true " American . As brilliant as he obviously is , he is faced with the old prejudices that are still abound in the States as indeed in other Western nations .
I feel that McCain will sweep into the Oval office with a landslide .
Time will tell , mark this post we can come back to it in November !!
Again I say that the American people are simply not ready yet for a black familly in the Oval office .


I agree 100%, even if elected he will be shot dead within a short period of time just like the Kennedys. there was report in the newspapers today that a plot to assasinate Obama was uncovered.


VP, I did not know that the Kennedy's were black.!! :lol: :lol:

Well, they were not and neither were the following Presidents who have been assasinated or attempted asasinations.

Assassinations
1 Abraham Lincoln
2 James A. Garfield
3 William McKinley
4 John F. Kennedy

Attempted assassinations
1 Andrew Jackson
2 Theodore Roosevelt
3 Franklin D. Roosevelt
4 Harry S Truman
5 John F. Kennedy
6 Richard M. Nixon
6.1 First assassination attempt
6.2 Second assassination attempt
7 Gerald R. Ford
7.1 First assassination attempt
7.2 Second assassination attempt
8 Jimmy Carter
9 Ronald Reagan
10 George H.W. Bush
11 Bill Clinton
11.1 First assassination attempt
11.2 Second assassination attempt
12 George W. Bush

Presidential deaths rumored to be assassinations
1 Zachary Taylor
2 Warren G. Harding

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un ... n_attempts

All these WHITE Presidents could have been mistaken for a Black I suppose, if they were on their way back to the White House from performing the Black and White Minstrel Show and they forgot to remove the black paint off their faces. :lol: :lol:

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Hi, My name is Abraham Lincoln and I'm really a White Guy, so please don't shoot me.! :lol: :lol:

As for what you read about a possible assassination attempt planning on Obama, was dismissed by the authorities as not being at all related to Obama. Besides, every President is a target to nut cases. It is a way to become famous for these losers.!
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:59 pm

Oracle wrote:If you invade and slaughter natives during your Turko-Ottoman expansions ... do not then complain if those oppressed have to fight back to retain/regain their freedom!



Oracle, please wake up. I was not complaining about the Greek struggle for Independence. I merely suggested that enough blood has been shed. I waste mytime with you. I think you miss Cyprus. Get back where you need to dust the house down. :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:05 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:If you invade and slaughter natives during your Turko-Ottoman expansions ... do not then complain if those oppressed have to fight back to retain/regain their freedom!



Oracle, please wake up. I was not complaining about the Greek struggle for Independence. I merely suggested that enough blood has been shed. I waste mytime with you. I think you miss Cyprus. Get back where you need to dust the house down. :lol:

I think she should attend to her overgrown beard and hairy legs !!
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:34 pm

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Oracle wrote:If you invade and slaughter natives during your Turko-Ottoman expansions ... do not then complain if those oppressed have to fight back to retain/regain their freedom!



Oracle, please wake up. I was not complaining about the Greek struggle for Independence. I merely suggested that enough blood has been shed. I waste mytime with you. I think you miss Cyprus. Get back where you need to dust the house down. :lol:

I think she should attend to her overgrown beard and hairy legs !!



Come on Miltiades. Oracle is a descendant of Aphrodite. Mock her not :lol:
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Postby RichardB » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:43 pm

Miltiades
I think she should attend to her overgrown beard and hairy legs !!


And Deniz
Come on Miltiades. Oracle is a descendant of Aphrodite. Mock her not :lol:


We are now seeing the words of 2 true Cypriot Gentlemen

You should be ashamed of yourselves

But I suppose in your world these sort of comments are the norm

I'm glad I dont exist therein
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Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:54 pm

Richard , I dont like what O stands for . Neither do I have much , if any , time for your hero.
Both , as far as Im concerned , are a liability , a detrimental one , to the Cyprus issue .
O happens to be in a world of her own , oblivious to the damage that her type are inflicting to Cyprus.
Turkey IS IN CYPRUS , like it or lumb it , Turkey occupies 40% of Cyprus . The only force that can remove the occupying troops are her pet hates , the T/Cs . Is she encouraging the T/Cs to demand the removal of the Turkish troops or is she encouraging them to demand the retention of the Turkish troops , what do you think !"!"
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