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[eracles]

If Russia (your buddies) and Turkey were to agree similtaneous recognition of the TRNC South Ossetia and Abkazia do you thin other nations would follow?

VP, the Russian ambassador to Turkey was merely joking. He was asked if now there is a chance that Russia will recognize "TRNC," and his answer -among laughter- was that “if Turkey were (ever) to recognize Abkhazia and Ossetia, then Russia may also consider recognizing the "TRNC!"” It was an indirect way to say that there is no possibility, likewise there is no possibility for Turkey to go against the will of her US and NATO allies in recognizing Abkhazia and Ossetia.

Kifeas, You'd better hope it was a joke. He said a mutual recognition could be easilly announced if Turkey agreed to recognize South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Jocular or not, such comments by the Russian Ambassador Plenipotentary and Extraordinary to Turkey cannot simply be brushed off as a joke. Not at that level. Turkey is more important to Russia than Cyprus, when you think about it...

Sorry for bursting up your bubble but, “No” Expatkiwi, I do not hope it was a joke, because it has already been double checked and verified through the Russian embassy in Cyprus and the Russian foreign ministry, that it was a joke IN FACT!

Too right, this is from todays Cyprus Mail...

Russian Embassy spokesman Vladimir Maystrenko yesterday expressed regret that some had taken the ambassador’s comments, deemed to be a joke, out of context and presented them as a serious piece of news.

The spokesman was adamant that Russia did not change its positions from one day to the next and continued to stand by UN resolutions 541 and 550 on Cyprus. He highlighted that the sentence was meant to be taken with a pinch of salt.

“We cannot but express our regret that some people are led astray by such reports and indeed hurry to advise the government of the Republic of Cyprus to make representations to Russia.

“Mr Ivanovsky said it smiling and it is perfectly clear why the ambassador was smiling. Every serious thinking person understands that Russia is not a country which will review its position in the international arena from one day to the next,” he said.

[Expatkiwi]

pity...

[utu]

pity...

Personally, I'm relieved that it was a joke (although the Russian Ambassador really should watch what he says in public). That scenario was quite an unsettling one...

[Oracle]

pity...

Personally, I'm relieved that it was a joke (although the Russian Ambassador really should watch what he says in public). That scenario was quite an unsettling one...

Why are you so stressed and unsettled about a Russian joke to do with putative recognition utu ...

What is in it for you to be so concerned?

Not the unbiased, dispassionate student any more?

[Kikapu]

pity...

Not everyone supports illegalities like yourself Expatkiwi.

You should congratulate them for doing the right thing and not pity them.!

180+ countries cannot be wrong. Give them some credit atleast for doing the right thing.!

[Kikapu]

pity...

Personally, I'm relieved that it was a joke (although the Russian Ambassador really should watch what he says in public). That scenario was quite an unsettling one...

As I've told you few times already utu, and that is, don't get too exited over nothing. At the very least read what is said carefully, how it's said and under what conditions, and look at who the players are, and where they stand with the rest of the world.

That's enough homework for you for now.!

[utu]

pity...

Personally, I'm relieved that it was a joke (although the Russian Ambassador really should watch what he says in public). That scenario was quite an unsettling one...

Why are you so stressed and unsettled about a Russian joke to do with putative recognition utu ...

What is in it for you to be so concerned?

Not the unbiased, dispassionate student any more?

I have an interest in geopolitics, Oracle. The thesis I'm working on - as I mentioned earlier - works on 'what if' scenarios. The secenario I had worked out on regarding possible Russian recognition of the north of Cyprus would have - based on my research - IMHO started a domino effect in that part of the world. The balkanization of the Near East and Caucauses would have pretty nasty ramifications locally considering the energy lifelines running through there, plus also spill over in other hot spots in other parts of the world. That's why I was concerned as to what the Ambassador said. Rocking the boat like that is like taking an rudderless ocean liner full of passengers and with no lifeboats into a fog-shrouded ocean, not knowing how the trip would end...

[Oracle]

pity...

Personally, I'm relieved that it was a joke (although the Russian Ambassador really should watch what he says in public). That scenario was quite an unsettling one...

Why are you so stressed and unsettled about a Russian joke to do with putative recognition utu ...

What is in it for you to be so concerned?

Not the unbiased, dispassionate student any more?

I have an interest in geopolitics, Oracle. The thesis I'm working on - as I mentioned earlier - works on 'what if' scenarios. The secenario I had worked out on regarding possible Russian recognition of the north of Cyprus would have - based on my research - IMHO started a domino effect in that part of the world. The balkanization of the Near East and Caucauses would have pretty nasty ramifications locally considering the energy lifelines running through there, plus also spill over in other hot spots in other parts of the world. That's why I was concerned as to what the Ambassador said. Rocking the boat like that is like taking an rudderless ocean liner full of passengers and with no lifeboats into a fog-shrouded ocean, not knowing how the trip would end...

Highlighting how much the West can be held hostage by the transportation of fuel at this time, may just be the tipping point for the acceptance of the initiatives being discussed for alternative energy sources which do not depend on good faith from neighbours.

Such scenarios as destroying sovereignities for geopolitical reasons (Cyprus being a pinnacle victim) will become a thing of the past when we apply our enormous brain-power to move us out of the neolithic age for our energy supplies.

[DT.]

pity...

Personally, I'm relieved that it was a joke (although the Russian Ambassador really should watch what he says in public). That scenario was quite an unsettling one...

Why are you so stressed and unsettled about a Russian joke to do with putative recognition utu ...

What is in it for you to be so concerned?

Not the unbiased, dispassionate student any more?

I have an interest in geopolitics, Oracle. The thesis I'm working on - as I mentioned earlier - works on 'what if' scenarios. The secenario I had worked out on regarding possible Russian recognition of the north of Cyprus would have - based on my research - IMHO started a domino effect in that part of the world. The balkanization of the Near East and Caucauses would have pretty nasty ramifications locally considering the energy lifelines running through there, plus also spill over in other hot spots in other parts of the world. That's why I was concerned as to what the Ambassador said. Rocking the boat like that is like taking an rudderless ocean liner full of passengers and with no lifeboats into a fog-shrouded ocean, not knowing how the trip would end...

more importantly recongition of northern cyprus would result in the shrinkage of Turkey.

[utu]

more importantly recongition of northern cyprus would result in the shrinkage of Turkey.

That is a possibility. Turks may not like the idea, but given the Kurdish desire for self-determination, not to mention the portion of historic Armenia that still lies within Turkey's current borders, perhaps in the interest of long-term survival, it would be better for Turkey to let them go...