Turkey CC* wrote: MicAtCyp, if you know genocide so well, then let me give you an example of a going on genocide-->Israel vs Palestine, now that's a genocide, Israelis are killing Palestanian people for years now, Israelis have high technology and a lot of money where Palestanians have just guts and rocks! The so-called Armenian genocide is not yet proven too, so don't come up as if you have the degree to prove it.(I don't say it as an insult, I mean the degree of a historian)
You are right Turkey I am not a historian. I would like however to inform you than in Cyprus it is not only the GCs and the TCs who live! Do you know that we have a substantial Armenian minority too? So we learned something directly from those people, and I beleive they have no reason to lie.
I have one question for you.France accepted the Armenian genocide.As well as the Country you live now. Do you think the proof on which France and your country based their decisions is false? What kind of proof is acceptable to you? to wake up the dead people and ask them???
wrote: Any answer is welcome, if the majority wants me to leave I will happily accept and respect their answer.
I personally talked with you many times in this forum, I think your contribution is valuable, and I don't think you should leave.
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negotiator wrote: It is the wish/desire to rid a race from existance as Hitlers Final Soloution. Now the GCS political view was to rid tcs from the island and join it to Greece, therefore that can be deemed as Genocide.
No,no,no I don't agree.Genocide is what you said A)wish/desire/intention against all the people, plus b)killing action, plus C)achievement of that goal of wish/desire/intention by a substantial degree through the killing action!
Lets take an example.
a)TCs wished to get rid of the GCs living in the northern part in 1974
b)They killed about 1% so the rest abandoned the place
c)They achieved their goal 100%
Is that a genocide? No because relatively few were killed, and the killing action was very little compared to the overall population. It was ethic cleansing!
Similarly I am not sure what the Israelis do against the Palestinians can be classified as genocide. I have to see numbers to tell.
So lets see what happened with the TCs in the 60s.
a)The GCs wanted to get rid of the TCs to declare Enosis.
b)They killed some, forced some to emmigrate but still 99% of them stayed here. Others in enclaves others in their own villages others in mixed villages.
c)The GCs did not achieve their goal not even by 1%
So where is the genocide?
I can accept oppression, I can accept effort to get rid of them, I can accept effort to take their political rights, I can accept a certain number of them were killed (although more GCs were killed also) but no I cannot accept a genocide. That's preposterous.
Notice we the GCs never accused you of genocide against us, never even accused Turkey for genocide against us.All we accuse Turkey is for ethnic cleansing against us...
