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I don't understand why some unethical British, Scotish and Irish morons support an illegal regime built on stolen land assumed through violence and war. end of story/

I have no particular axe to grind with someone who has bought a TC property (pre 74 deed, not any of the other phoney deeds) in the north of Cyprus.

What I have a problem with is the greedy fuckers who have bought stolen property and land and now have a vested interest in NOT having a solution.

Even the TCs have no legal recourse to sell their properties without going through the rightful RoC Land registry channels and paying all the fees and dues ...

The land ultimately IMHO belongs to the RoC and we are merely named passing custodians for all the Cypriots that will follow us ...

[Nikitas]

EricSeans said:

"I doubt the majority of expat buyers gave a single thought to the ECHR or the rights of the legal owners before buying. Most probably don't know what the ECHR is without Googling. "

Ignorantia legis non excusat- the legal motto does not mean that the average Joe must read every statue and court decision. It means that one must take reasonable care to find out what the law says. And when you set out from the UK to buy land several thousand miles away it is assumed that you did some due dilligence and know what you were getting into. This is not like buying stuff off the back of a lorry, where you can claim you did not know it was stolen. Land is sitting still and titles can be searched. In short the cheapskated will take a loss. They are the most available victims and it is their own fault. The people who will get away with it and keep the money are the "developers".

[ttoli]

I don't understand why some unethical British, Scotish and Irish morons support an illegal regime built on stolen land assumed through violence and war. end of story/

I have no particular axe to grind with someone who has bought a TC property (pre 74 deed, not any of the other phoney deeds) in the north of Cyprus.

What I have a problem with is the greedy fuckers who have bought stolen property and land and now have a vested interest in NOT having a solution.

Even the TCs have no legal recourse to sell their properties without going through the rightful RoC Land registry channels and paying all the fees and dues ...

The land ultimately IMHO belongs to the RoC and we are merely named passing custodians for all the Cypriots that will follow us ...

Are you really that thick love??, At present does the RoC have any control over the North?, NO IT DOESNT, so why the F should a TC who owns land in the North declare it to the RoC government???.

[BC Numismatics]

Eracles,
Are you saying that all those who buy land off Greek-speaking Cypriots are tealeaves? What about those who buy land in southern Cyprus? Are they tealeaves as well?

Aidan.

[Raymanoff]

watch this video: http://www.euronews.net/en/article/24/0 ... d-or-bad-/

[eracles]

Eracles,
Are you saying that all those who buy land off Greek-speaking Cypriots are tealeaves? What about those who buy land in southern Cyprus? Are they tealeaves as well?

Aidan.

Course not....sales are (mostly) legal, unlike in the occupied areas where Gary Robb and his cronies sell phoney illegal properties to greedy deluded expats.

[BC Numismatics]

Eracles,
I actually saw a British T.V. series on Channel 1 over here in New Zealand about property development in foreign countries,including Bulgaria,Cyprus,& Spain.The presenter (who speaks with a distinctive Ulster accent) mentioned about the property boom in northern Cyprus.He mentioned that trying to buy property in northern Cyprus is an absolute minefield,especially from a legal perspective.

Aidan.

[Mr. T]

erecles,

Follow some of the north-based BBs and you'll see that there are some Brits there who are not afraid of speaking out against the immoral and ignorant who surround them.

I have read some and see you mean Eric Seans, Eric Seans, Eric Seans.

It is not beyond comprehension that buyers of pre 74 Turkish title property did not buy it on moral grounds but having done so are now pathetically taking the moral high ground.

It is interesting that the TC government has not given permission to foreigners to purchase Pre 74 Turkish title for several years but has noticeably kept this quiet, happy to see foreign cash coming into the country. This certainly could strengthen the argument that in any agreements that could be made with the GC government the TC government will have no second thoughts for the ex-pats, increasingly non-British, who they have desperately needed to bolster their economy.
Having said that the writers on this thread seem to be celebrating when there could well be nothing to celebrate.

I would not buy exchange land nor for the timebeing Turkish title either but to say that the majority of buyers of property which was in Greek hands prior to 74 are thieves is unwarranted. The information they get from estate agents and other interested parties is that GCs who previously possessed the property will not have lost out.

Could somebody please enlighten me on the situation of property in the south that was possessed by Turks pre 74?
Has any been leased on agreements that cannot immediately be terminated, sold, taken for industrial use, for airports etc?
This is a reasonable question not asked with any nasty intentions.

[Mr. T]

hey you i'm not a cheap skate. they all purchased greek cypriot property. if you want a cheap house thats what they do. my renovation has cost me much much more than it would have done to buy a house off plan on greek land. some of us brits do have morals. in the event of a solution the trnc will become part of the eu. hence clearing lots of the criminal scum from cyprus. the case with the orams is up for a conclusion before the end of september so i have read. just to let you know friends of our bumped into the infamous orams. they also have another greek owned property in the salamis area. nice people! lots of the expats here are selling up, panic is setting in to some extent. still lots with their heads stuck in the sand. mr t's office did make a statement regarding property. he said that the time had come for a solution, a solution for all cypriot people.the propertyissues would be dealt with according to international law. the way i read into this was, that he was selling the expats out under international law but the cypriots would all be looked after. trouble is they change their minds like the wind.

On the basis of your Orams comments you have no reason to think any better of any other ex-pats who have bought exchange title property.

I trust you make this clear to them?

Incidentally I see that one of your neighbours, Halil ,would like all foreigners to be chucked out of Cyprus.

[wallace]

In testiculus nostris what anyone says. If a solution is found I will come and take what belongs to me in the north