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Postby pantheman » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:40 am

BRAVOOOOOOOO Nicole, FFS, about time someone new can see that.
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Postby tessintrnc » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:48 am

I know that the properties commission isn't all it should be, but if Nicole registered her claim with them, would it not prevent the constructors from selling, if there was an ongoing claim against the land?
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:17 am

Registering with the property commission indicates that you are willing to divest yourself of your property and ready to accept compensation. It is a legal trap. Return of the land is not a guaranteed result. The level of compensation paid so far is a joke. The prices are even lower than they were in 1974.
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Postby tessintrnc » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:25 am

Nikitas wrote:Registering with the property commission indicates that you are willing to divest yourself of your property and ready to accept compensation. It is a legal trap. Return of the land is not a guaranteed result. The level of compensation paid so far is a joke. The prices are even lower than they were in 1974.


Thanks Nikitas, but I thought that some properties had been returned? Do you HAVE to accept the compensation they offer? If so, then yes I agree it does seem a bit of a trap.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:36 am

You do not have to accept it, but there is no appeal from their decision. The priority in the settlement process is given to compensation cases, while restitution is left last, for obvious reasons. Politis newspaper published the relative figures and a quick glance is enough to understand what is going on.
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Postby humanist » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:37 am

tess why should any Cypriot have to apply to a commission to have their rightful property returned to them? you really do not get it do you. people were threatened with guns if they did not leave. they did not wish for their properties to be taken away. I don't know why i bother really
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Postby BC Numismatics » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:18 pm

Nicole,
You should get in touch with both your M.P. & the Cypriot High Commission in London in relation to this issue.You could also try taking legal action against both the Turkish Cypriot 'Government' & the Turkish Government in Ankara.Who knows,the case may end up going through the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council & the House of Lords.

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Postby tessintrnc » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:26 pm

humanist wrote:tess why should any Cypriot have to apply to a commission to have their rightful property returned to them? you really do not get it do you. people were threatened with guns if they did not leave. they did not wish for their properties to be taken away. I don't know why i bother really


Of course they didn't want to leave their properties!! But it happened, and now things need to be put right. No, they shouldn't have to apply to a property commission to get their property back and if Nikitas is right (and I am sure that he is), then its not worth it anyway. I just thought that if a claim was registered, it MAY stop the sale of the properties on Nicoles land, thats all. After all if a potential "buyer" gets wind of an ongoing property claim, then they would be really stupid to go ahead.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:29 pm

Nicole,

You really do have an interesting, if not uncommon, view of your countries recent history, typical of most GC's.
Quite what the UK's history of 200 years ago has to do with this debate, is not clear.

However, for all you supporters of legal action I refer you to your own government spokesman, Stefanos Stefanou who, refering to the Mike Tymvios case, said:

"...................that the court was not the place to solve the Cyprus problem."

“The Cyprus problem is primarily a political problem, a problem of invasion and occupation, with aspects relating to property, and it cannot be solved comprehensively through the courts,” he said.

The spokesman maintained this was always the view of AKEL, the party now in government.

“It’s a bizarre situation where a Greek Cypriot brought an action against Turkey and they settled for an exchange of property. And now, Turkey will be promoting the position of the Greek Cypriot in the Committee of Ministers because the Cyprus government has not given effect to the settlement,” .

The issue is complicated in more ways than one, since the Larnaca property in question contains two schools, residential homes and businesses.

If the government goes ahead and transfers ownership to Tymvios, the state would then probably be forced to requisition the land through a compulsory acquisition.

If the authorities refuse to do the paperwork, the government may be liable for not enforcing the settlement between Tymvios and Turkey as endorsed by the ECHR.

Time to make up your minds, guys.
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