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HELP! Info needed on stopping Developers in TRNC

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Nikitas » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:38 am

Start fighting this in England. The assholes who are building will eventually try to sell to British people, and you have a case against the people who will attempt to buy, and in that situation it will be a British versus British case. If the developers have agents in the UK then you can issue an injunction against them to prevent them selling in the UK ANY of the apartments they will build on your land in Cyprus.

You need a a lawyer with imagination to do this, and I stopped practicing a long time ago. It will be interesting from a legal point of view to proceed against all possible buyers of property built on your land. Under EU rules the British courts are obliged to recognise official RoC property deeds and other official documents that are properly apostiled and legalised. And by seeking an injunction you are not asking the British court to deal with the substance of your title, just to stop other British people from buying what is yours.

The mere start of proceedings is enough to cause the sellers a big headache and you make it known that buyers are dealing in stolen land, they will be committing a civil wrong against you. That ruins business for the thieves.

The property commission is a fraud. They will offer you something like 100 GBP per donum for land that is worth a hundred times that. And everything takes time which is another way for buraucracies to crush the individual. They live forever and people do not. The ECHR also takes time and to reach them you must exhaust local remedies.

Go for it! Find a law professor who has imagination, and not just a local hack lawyer who deals with humdrum cases.
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Postby eracles » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:39 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:Hi Nicole 22,

You are approaching the problem from the wrong end.
You should approach the GC administration for compensation as it was their predecessors rash adventurism 1963-1974 that led to the intervention of Turkey and the confiscation of GC land in the North. I would get your lawyer to sue the GC government. You've got a better chance of getting something from them, anyway.
If thats no good try the Immovable Property Commission in the North and take what you can get.


-She is not aproaching the problem from the wrong end
-Confiscation of land? From who, innocent civilians? For what. Greedy thieves, perhaps like yourself?
-Take a chance on some mickey mouse commision - not a chance?
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Postby CopperLine » Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:18 pm

Nicole22,
There are several issues which need to be clarified immediately before anyone can advise you on the case.
First, when you say that you
have inherited land
, what form does this inheritance take ? For example, do you have in your possession title deed to particular pieces of land ? Or, is this a title claim which you have been told about ? If the former then what kind of title is the deed ?
Second, when you wrote that
I am led to believe [the land] is now being developed
, what makes you think this is the case ? Have you visited the site ?

You need definitive answers to both these questions before it is worth your while taking any further action.

Ignore the comments from those posters who seem to require resolution of the whole of Cyprus's problems before any single person can take action on their own case.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:04 pm

Nicole .... Don't ignore this problem.

You must first contact your MP. You can get their details (phone number, appointment times) from your Local Library.... He/she needs your vote! He will have to show you he upholds Human Rights, and addresses any concerns on violations against his constituents.

Be assertive and let him know you will also seek the support of his opponent. Get them working for your vote!

The CAB will help you draft a letter if you are nervous ...
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Postby EricSeans » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:12 pm

Good info. The vote-hungry MPs also need the media for publicity. Find out who is developing/selling/buying your family land and you can have them named and shamed in their local papers in the UK. That will worry a lot of other speculators.


Oracle wrote:Nicole .... Don't ignore this problem.

You must first contact your MP. You can get their details (phone number, appointment times) from your Local Library.... He/she needs your vote! He will have to show you he upholds Human Rights, and addresses any concerns on violations against his constituents.

Be assertive and let him know you will also seek the support of his opponent. Get them working for your vote!

The CAB will help you draft a letter if you are nervous ...
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Postby Oracle » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:18 pm

Nicole ... do not lower yourself to such common practices as "name and shame".

They are beneath you, and do not work! They will just shame you as a person.

You do not have to resort to desperate tactics like that, but perhaps phone the Cyprus High Commission on assisting any Lobby groups if you want to expand your possibilities and get involved in the wider issue.
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Postby roseandchan » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:44 pm

nicole can you tell me more about the area we are talking about. may be able to keep you informed on whats happening there. has the construction started yet? also i think all lawyers here in the trnc are turkish cypriot. its a closed shop so to speak.( and again just for the record i live on a turkish tile deed property. for all those who wish to doubt me i can always email the picture of my hubby with our tilte deed outside the roc land office in nicosia. )
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Postby humanist » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:02 pm

malakas
Nicole 22,

You are approaching the problem from the wrong end.
You should approach the GC administration for compensation as it was their predecessors rash adventurism 1963-1974 that led to the intervention of Turkey and the confiscation of GC land in the North. I would get your lawyer to sue the GC government. You've got a better chance of getting something from them, anyway.
If thats no good try the Immovable Property Commission in the North and take what you can get.


ai na yamithis malaka........ what turkish intervention you clown the TC's are strungled under your rule. pezevengi.
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Postby Nicole22 » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:35 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:Hi Nicole 22,

You are approaching the problem from the wrong end.
You should approach the GC administration for compensation as it was their predecessors rash adventurism 1963-1974 that led to the intervention of Turkey and the confiscation of GC land in the North. I would get your lawyer to sue the GC government. You've got a better chance of getting something from them, anyway.
If thats no good try the Immovable Property Commission in the North and take what you can get.


I don't think it was the GC who were responisible for this mess, it began with the British divide and rule policy and then, Americans funded the EOKAs to get rid of the Brits, so they can have bases in Cyprus which they saw as the key to the Middle East, when their plan didn't work, they attacked from a different angle, ie Colonels in Greece and the Sampson coup. The ordinary citizens, BOTH GCs and TCs have been manipulated and have suffered the consequences as a result.

If you know anything about your own history, you will know that less than 200 years ago, your people were working down the coalmines for more than 12 hours a day whilst laws were being passed to protect the horses from working more than 7 hours.

Indeed, the expression 'not worth a light' comes from the fact that some of you weren't worth the wax from the candle and had to work in the dark!

So, please don't blame the GCs for the greed and power- hungry super powers that seek to manipulate us!
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Postby Oracle » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:39 pm

Great reply Nicole .... :D
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