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[mem101]

I'm a Turkish Cypriot, I was born in UK, my dad was born in Cyprus, my mum was born in UK and her parents were born in Cyprus. I've been to Cyprus twice in my life and I want to go there now and live and work for a while. I have a document which entitles me to stay in TRNC for up to 90 days per year but I plan to stay for longer than that. I think the options for someone in my position are to either pay £3000, pay £1500 and complete one month military service, or complete 6 months military service. Can anybody confirm whether or not this is correct? I think I would probably complete the full 6 months service. Does anyone have any information about the service itself? I don't really know what to expect.

[humanist]

talk to member by the name T_C. He did the army.

I wish I had the option of paying the RoC moneys to exclude me from the army

[DT.]

why would you want to live somewhere where they make you join an occupation army? The spoils of war have already been dished out mate.

[halil]

I'm a Turkish Cypriot, I was born in UK, my dad was born in Cyprus, my mum was born in UK and her parents were born in Cyprus. I've been to Cyprus twice in my life and I want to go there now and live and work for a while. I have a document which entitles me to stay in TRNC for up to 90 days per year but I plan to stay for longer than that. I think the options for someone in my position are to either pay £3000, pay £1500 and complete one month military service, or complete 6 months military service. Can anybody confirm whether or not this is correct? I think I would probably complete the full 6 months service. Does anyone have any information about the service itself? I don't really know what to expect.

Mem101 ,
If you pay 3000 you can not do .

my cousine came from UK and he paid 3000 and got free .Now he works at Lefke avrupa university as English teacher.

here is the law:
T.R.N.C. CONSTITUTION, CITIZENSHIP LAW, 59/2000 MILITARY SERVICE LAW BRIEF INFORMATION

PART 1

T.R.N.C. CONSTITUTION, CITIZENSHIP LAW, 59/2000 MILITARY SERVICE LAW
BRIEF INFORMATION

QUESTION 1. WHICH CITIZENS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR COMPULSORY MILITARY SERVICE ACCORDING TO THE T.R.N.C. CONSTITUTION?

ANSWER 1. ACCORDING TO THE T.R.N.C. CONSTITUTION EVERY T.R.N.C. CITIZEN IS ELIGIBLE FOR MILITARY SERVICE.

QUESTION 2 .WHICH PERSONS ARE CONSIDERED AS T.R.N.C. CITIZENS ACCORDING TO THE T.R.N.C. CITIZENSHIP LAW?

ANSWER 2. THOSE BORN IN THE T.R.N.C. OR IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY AND HAVING;
A. TURKISH CYPRIOT MOTHER, TURKISH CYPRIOT FATHER OR
B. TURKISH CYPRIOT MOTHER, ALIEN FATHER OR
C. ALIEN MOTHER, TURKISH CYPRIOT FATHER, ARE T.R.N.C. CITIZENS.

QUESTION 3.HOW DO YOU ACQUIRE THE T.R.N.C. CITIZENSHIP?

ANSWER 3.YOU ACQUIRE THE T.R.N.C. CITIZENSHIP BY BIRTH. THERE IS NO NEED FOR AN APPLICATION AND NO NEED TO HAVE A T.R.N.C. IDENTITY CARD TO ACQUIRE THE T.R.N.C. CITIZENSHIP.

QUESTION 4.CAN A PERSON WHO HAS NOT DONE MILITARY SERVICE LOOSE HIS T.R.N.C. CITIZENSHIP?

ANSWER 4.
A. THOSE PERSONS BORN OUTSIDE THE T.R.N.C. AND WHO HAVE BEEN RESIDENT ABROAD UNTIL THE AGE OF 18, HAVING ACCOMPLISHED THEIR MILITARY SERVICE BEFORE THE AGE OF 21, CAN APPLY TO THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR SO AS TO GIVE UP THEIR CITIZENSHIP BEFORE THE AGE OF 21. IF THESE PERSONS HAVE NOT ACCOMPLISHED THEIR MILITARY SERVICE UNTIL THE AGE OF 21, THEY CANNOT GIVE UP THEIR T.R.N.C. CITIZENSHIP.
B. THOSE BORN ABROAD BUT WHO ARE RESIDENT IN THE T.R.N.C. CAN NOT GIVE UP THEIR T.R.N.C. CITIZENSHIP WITHOUT COMPLETING THEIR MILITARY SERVICE.
C. THOSE BORN IN THE T.R.N.C. CAN NOT GIVE UP THEIR T.R.N.C. CITIZENSHIP WITHOUT COMPLETING THEIR MILITARY SERVICE.

QUESTION 5. HOW IS MILITARY SERVICE DONE? WHAT IS THE DURATION OF THE MILITARY SERVICE?

ANSWER 5. MILITARY SEVICE CAN BE DONE;
A. AS A PRIVATE, SERVICE DURATION IS 15 MONTHS
B. AS A RESERVE OFFICER, SERVICE DURATION IS 12 MONTHS
C. AS A RESERVE SERGEANT, SERVICE DURATION IS 12 MONTHS
D. SHORT TERM PAYABLE MILITARY SERVICE’S DURATION IS 8 MONTHS
E. UNDER A SPECIAL STATUS ( PAID AND/OR SHORT DURATION)
F. UNDER A SPECIAL STATUS DUE TO HIGHER EDUCATION.

QUESTION 6. WHO ARE SUBJECT TO AND WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS OF THE SPECIAL STATUS SERVICE ( PAID AND/OR SHORT DURATION)?

ANSWER 6. THOSE BORN ABROAD OF MOTHERS AND FATHERS OF TURKISH CYPRIOT ORIGIN, OR RESIDENT OF FOREIGN COUNTRIES TILL THE AGE OF MILITARY SERVICE (EXPECT THE ONES RESIDING IN TURKEY WITH DUAL T.R.N.C. AND TURKISH CITIZENSHIP) AND T.R.N.C. CITIZENS WHO LEFT THE T.R.N.C. WITH THEIR PARENTS BEFORE THE COMPLETION OF THEIR TWELVETH YEAR OF AGE AND RESIDENT IN A FOREIGN CONTRY TILL THEIR AGE OF MILITARY SERVICE (EXCEPT THE ONES RESIDING IN TURKEY WITH A DUAL T.R.N.C. AND TURKISH CITIZENSHIP).

PERSONS FALLING TO THIS CATHEGORY CAN FULFILL THEIR MILITARY SERVICE BY;
A. PAYING 4000 STG. (STERLING)
B. PAYING 2000 STG. (STERLING), PLUS ONE MONTH MILITARY SERVICE.
C. THOSE CITIZENS RETURNING BACK FORM ABROAD WITH THE AIM
OF RESETTELING IN THE T.R.N.C. UNDER THE AGE OF 31, HAS TO DO
MILITARY SERVICE FOR 8 MONTHS.
D.THOSE CITIZENS RETURNING BACK FROM ABROAD WITH THE AIM OF
RESETTLING IN THE T.R.N.C. ABOVE THE AGE OF 31 HAS TO DO MILITARY
SERVICE FOR 4 MONTHS.

QUESTION 7.THE WHOM IS THE HIGHER EDUCATION SPECIAL STATUS MILITARY SERVICE APPLICABLE AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS?

ANSWER 7. ALL THOSE WHO WERE THE CITIZENS OF THE T.R.N.C. AT THE AGE OF MILITARY SERVICE WHO HAVE COMPLETED AN UNDERGRADUATE PROGRAMME OF AT LEAST 3 YEARS AND WHO HAVE SYSTEMATICALLY ON A YEARLY BASES POSTPONED THEIR MILITARY SERVICE BY THE “ASAL ŞUBE” AND HAVE WORKED FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER 4 YEARS ABROAD AT THE END of theır hıgher educaıon these persons can accomplısh theır mılıtary sERVICE BY PAYING 4000 STG. (STERLING) PLUS DOING MILITARY SERVICE FOR ONE MONTH. HOWEVER, UNDER THE CONDITION OF GRADUATING, THE YEARS SPEND FOR POST GRADUATE STUDIES ABROAD ARE CONSIDERED AS YEARS OF EMPLOYMENT ABROAD.

QUESTION8. HOW LONG CAN CITIZENS WHO ARE CONSIDERED TO BE UNDER THE SPECIAL MILITARY SERVICE STATUS AND HIGHER EDUCATION STUDENTS ABROAD CAN STAY IN THE T.R.N.C. PRIOR TO THEIR ROLL-CALL FOR SERVICE?

ANSWER 8. THEY CAN STAY A PERIOD OF MAXIMUM 90 DAYS DURING EACH CALENDAR YEAR IN THE T.R.N.C.

QUESTION 9. HOW CAN YOU APPLY FOR THE SPECIAL MILITARY SERVICE?

ANSWER 9. A. PERSONALLY, JUST AFTER HAVING RETURNED TO THE T.R.N.C. OR BY A WRITTEN APPLICATION HANDED OVER BY YOUR FAMILY TO THE “ASAL ŞUBE” ATTACHED TO THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE SECURITY FORCES.
B. BY A WRITTEN APPLICATION ADDRESSED TO THE REPRESENTATION OFFICES OF THE T.R.N.C. IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES.

DOCUMENTS REQUIRED FOR APPLICATION

PART II

DOCUMENTS REQUIRED FOR APPLICATION

QUESTION 1. WHAT ARE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY WHEN APPLYING FOR THE SPECIAL MILITARY SERVICE?

ANSWER 1. FOR THOSE PERSONS BORN OUTSIDE THE T.R.N.C. AND LIVED THERE TILL THE AGE OF MILITARY SERVICE (TILL 19 YEARS OF AGE):
1. A COPY OF THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE GIVEN BY THE COUNTRY OF
BIRTH,DENTITY CARD OR PASSPORT.
2. THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF THE MOTHER AND/OR FATHER ISSUED BY
THE T.R.N.C.
3. AN ENTRY AND EXIT DOCUMENT OF THE MOTHER AND/OR FATHER
ISSUED BY THE MIGRATION DIRECTORATE OF THE T.R.N.C. POLICE.
4. FIVE PHOTOGRAPHS
5. A WRITTEN APPLICATION

QUESTION 2.WHEN SHOULD THE SPECIAL MILITARY SERVICE APPLICANTS APPLY FOR THEIR SERVICE?

ANSWER 2.
A. AFTER REACHING THE AGE OF MILITARY SERVICE (19 YEARS OF AGE)
WHEN ENTERING THE TERRITORY OF THE T.R.N.C., WITHIN THE FIRST 90
DAYS OF THEIR STAY IN THE T.R.N.C.
B. AFTER REACHING THE AGE OF MILITARY SERVICE (19 YEARS OF AGE)
ONE CAN APPLY TO THE T.R.N.C. REPRESANTATION OFFICES ABROAD.

QUESTION 3. WHAT ARE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION OF SPECIAL MILITARY SERVICE OF STUDENTS OF HIGHER EDUCATION ABROAD?

ANSWER 3.
A. A COPY OF THE DIPLOMA APPROVED BY THE UNIVERSITY AND/OR
ACADEMIC INSTUTION ISSUING IT.
B. AN APPROVED COPY OF THE POST UNIVERSITY DIPLOMA BY THE
MINISTRY RESPONSIBLE FOR EDUCATION.
C. ATOM CERTIFICATE PROVING THAT THE CANDIDATE HAS WORKED IN THE
SAID FOREIGN COUNTRY ACCORDING TO THE LAWS OF THAT COUNTRY,
APPROVED BY THE LAWS OF THAT COUNTRY, APPROVED BY THE T.R.N.C.
REPRESENTATION ON YEARLY BASES.
D. FIVE PHOTOGRAPS
E. A WRITTEN APPLICATION



SPECIAL NOTES

PART III

SPECIAL NOTES

QUESTION 1. WHAT ARE THE FORMALITIES OF LEAVING THE T.R.N.C. TERRITORY?

ANSWER 1.THE CITIZENS WHO HAVE FULFILLED THEIR MILITARY SERVICE WILL HAVE TO SHOW THEIR ID CARD AQUIRED AFTER HAVING FULFILLED THEIR SERVICE AT THE PORTS OF ENTRY OF THE T.R.N.C. AND THE ONE WHO HAVE NOT YET FULFILLED THEIR MILITARY SERVICE WILL HAVE TO SHOW THEIR “EXIT PERMIT” ACQUIRED BY THE ASAL ŞUBE.

QUESTION 2. WHAT SHOULD BE DONE AT THE TERMINATION OF THE POSTPONEMENT PERIOD OF THE MILITARY SERVICE?

ANSWER 2. ONE SHOULD APPLY FOR REPOSTPONEMENT WITHIN 3 MONTHS.

QUESTION 3. WHEN CAN THE SPECIAL STATUS MILITARY SERVICE PERSONS FULFILL THEIR MILITARY SERVICE OBLIGATIONS?

ANSWER 3.
A. WHENEVER THEY WISH, THEY WILL BE ENROLLED WITH THE FIRST RECRATS.
B. IF THEY STAY MORE THEN 90 DAYS IN ONE CALENDER YEAR IN THE T.R.N.C.
C. THEY CAN DELAY THEIR MILITARY SERVICE THE LATEST TILL THE AGE OF 49.

QUESTION 4. WHAT WILL BE THE SITUATION OF ALL THOSE WHO HAVE COMPLETED THEIR FORMALITIES UNDER PREVIOUS LAWS WHICH HAVE BEEN CHANGED IN THE MEANTIME?

ANSWER 4. WITH THE COMING INTO FORCE OF THIS PRESENT LAW (DATED 17 NOVEMBER, 2000), THE MILITARY SERVICE LAW, THE SUPPLEMENTARY OFFICERS LAW, THE PAID MILITARY SERVICE LAW, THE SHORT TERM MILITARY SERVICE LAW AND THE SHORT PERIOD MILITARY SERVICE LAW ARE ALL BEING ABOLISHED WITHOUT AFFECTING THE RIGHTS OF PERSONS WHO HAD ALREADY APPLIED FOR THEM PREVIOUSLY.


for more details also see :
http://www.mucahit.net/

[halil]

mem101 ,
according to above law from i took from http://www.mucahit.net/

for not doing 4000 and for doing a month you should pay 2000.

good luck .

[mem101]

I read that before a while ago but I was under the impression that the law had changed slightly, particularly for people in my position.

[humanist]

looks like the RoC can take some lessons from our occupiers army. I guess in an honest legal beaurucracy not even the army can be bought.

[paliometoxo]

in lebanon they do that also you can pay your way out of the army if you have the money, i was talking to a cab driver and he told me all about it,. his english was very good

[halil]

looks like the RoC can take some lessons from our occupiers army. I guess in an honest legal beaurucracy not even the army can be bought.

Humanist ,
in north we have 2 armies .

1. Turkish Cypriot army called Güvenlik Kuvvetleri .İt is forumed only from Turkish Cypriots . Theyb are not occuping arm as you are saying .they are our security forces . İf mem 101 or other TC's comes to Cyprus they will join to this army .

2. Army from Turkey .Soldiers comes from Turkey .TC's can not join this army.

even these armies does not mixed at boarders .Every army has got their own barracs .

[Oracle]

This thread is disgusting .....

Bloody Turks!