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RECENT ATTACKS IN PILE VILLAGE- Really who gives a shit

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby miltiades » Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:58 am

Oracle wrote:The most worrying outcome of this is the fact that there are an unaccountable number of Mainland Turks / settlers in this village that nobody wants to confront.

Have the TCs not already told us on this forum they do not get on with these mainland settlers?

Maybe it is them, or other TCs ... or maybe GCs.

But it looks like it's 2/3 times likely to be Turks associated ... and only 1/3 times liekly to be GC associated.

So why has halil jumped to accusing the GCs without evidence, whilst trying to silence me about mentioning these illegal Turkish mainlanders that are trouble makers according to "TCs" ....

I wonder if the Turkish settlers are as troublesome as our "legal" Georgians in Paphos . I believe we have ghettos that are inaccessible to all but the "Georgians "
So here you have it , we also have our own" imported shit ".
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:48 pm

We are just discussing the incident there is currently no evidence to blame either side but the attitude of GCs makes me sick, this is more alarming than anything else, in a united Cyprus where we would have to depend on GC mentality to solve a crime or incident they will make feable excuses and brush everything under the carpet, rather than find the culprit and punish them, when will you stand up for each other ignoring ethnic origin is the day you can claim you want a united island, otherwise you are all hypocrites.
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Postby DT. » Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:11 pm

Viewpoint wrote:We are just discussing the incident there is currently no evidence to blame either side but the attitude of GCs makes me sick, this is more alarming than anything else, in a united Cyprus where we would have to depend on GC mentality to solve a crime or incident they will make feable excuses and brush everything under the carpet, rather than find the culprit and punish them, when will you stand up for each other ignoring ethnic origin is the day you can claim you want a united island, otherwise you are all hypocrites.


If any are guilty from our side they will be punished. DO I REALLY NEED TO TAKE EVERYONE TO THE THREAD WITH SOLOMOU AND ISAAK WHERE YOUR CONCLUSION WAS THAT THE VICTIMS WERE TO BLAME??

DID YOU CONDEMN THOSE MURDERS YOU HYPOCRITE?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:24 pm

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:We are just discussing the incident there is currently no evidence to blame either side but the attitude of GCs makes me sick, this is more alarming than anything else, in a united Cyprus where we would have to depend on GC mentality to solve a crime or incident they will make feable excuses and brush everything under the carpet, rather than find the culprit and punish them, when will you stand up for each other ignoring ethnic origin is the day you can claim you want a united island, otherwise you are all hypocrites.


If any are guilty from our side they will be punished. DO I REALLY NEED TO TAKE EVERYONE TO THE THREAD WITH SOLOMOU AND ISAAK WHERE YOUR CONCLUSION WAS THAT THE VICTIMS WERE TO BLAME??

DID YOU CONDEMN THOSE MURDERS YOU HYPOCRITE?


You obviously did not comprehend what I wrote which was clear and precise.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:We are just discussing the incident there is currently no evidence to blame either side but the attitude of GCs makes me sick, this is more alarming than anything else, in a united Cyprus where we would have to depend on GC mentality to solve a crime or incident they will make feable excuses and brush everything under the carpet, rather than find the culprit and punish them, when will you stand up for each other ignoring ethnic origin is the day you can claim you want a united island, otherwise you are all hypocrites.


Now you are retracting the direct accusation towards the GCs ... because the illegal Mainland Turks / settlers exposed as living in this newly "troubled" village are in the spotlight!

VP ... you must know how many illegal Mainland Turks / settlers have taken to living there surreptitiously ... perhaps imported to Pyla as easier to instruct in carrying out the dirty Turks' work ... I mean, the Turks' dirty work!
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Postby miltiades » Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:04 pm

Viewpoint wrote:We are just discussing the incident there is currently no evidence to blame either side but the attitude of GCs makes me sick, this is more alarming than anything else, in a united Cyprus where we would have to depend on GC mentality to solve a crime or incident they will make feable excuses and brush everything under the carpet, rather than find the culprit and punish them, when will you stand up for each other ignoring ethnic origin is the day you can claim you want a united island, otherwise you are all hypocrites.

VP , I along with others have already condemned all violence against citizens regardless of ethnicity .Wanton violence is the by product of a behaviour that is to be condemned by all civilized people. Those responsible for illegal acts against citizens must be sought out and dealt accordingly. You too must condemn the barbaric killing of the two G/Cs in cold blood. There is no excuse for savage behaviour.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:20 pm

RichardB wrote:
halil wrote:you don't give shit .... don't give

but you do give credit to others to say
''Touching upon the recent incident in the mixed village of Pile where properties of Turkish Cypriots were vandalized, Democrat Party Leader said that such incidents carried the risk of spiraling out of control in the absence of Turkey’s effective guarantee and right of intervention.''


And these were all your own thoughts or did you just copy / paste


No Richard, it is not his own thoughts, but they might as well have been! After all, it was precisely for this reason that those done it, done it for! You see, people like Halil never bother to find out who did it, and whether it was in fact Turks or TCs that did it, in order to justify the above thoughts of Halil regarding the presence of the Turkish army in Cyprus. As if the Ergenekon case has never seen the lights of publicity, for him to discover in what shit-hole him and the rest of the TCs are seating inside.
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Postby RichardB » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:46 pm

Kifeas wrote:
RichardB wrote:
halil wrote:you don't give shit .... don't give

but you do give credit to others to say
''Touching upon the recent incident in the mixed village of Pile where properties of Turkish Cypriots were vandalized, Democrat Party Leader said that such incidents carried the risk of spiraling out of control in the absence of Turkey’s effective guarantee and right of intervention.''


And these were all your own thoughts or did you just copy / paste


No Richard, it is not his own thoughts, but they might as well have been! After all, it was precisely for this reason that those done it, done it for! You see, people like Halil never bother to find out who did it, and whether it was in fact Turks or TCs that did it, in order to justify the above thoughts of Halil regarding the presence of the Turkish army in Cyprus. As if the Ergenekon case has never seen the lights of publicity, for him to discover in what shit-hole him and the rest of the TCs are seating inside.


I did realise that Kifeas
I was just trying to find out if Halil actually had an independent view of his own on any subject or was only allowed by his employers to publish their views
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:19 pm

Kifeas wrote:
RichardB wrote:
halil wrote:you don't give shit .... don't give

but you do give credit to others to say
''Touching upon the recent incident in the mixed village of Pile where properties of Turkish Cypriots were vandalized, Democrat Party Leader said that such incidents carried the risk of spiraling out of control in the absence of Turkey’s effective guarantee and right of intervention.''


And these were all your own thoughts or did you just copy / paste


No Richard, it is not his own thoughts, but they might as well have been! After all, it was precisely for this reason that those done it, done it for! You see, people like Halil never bother to find out who did it, and whether it was in fact Turks or TCs that did it, in order to justify the above thoughts of Halil regarding the presence of the Turkish army in Cyprus. As if the Ergenekon case has never seen the lights of publicity, for him to discover in what shit-hole him and the rest of the TCs are seating inside.


I for one find it very amusing that many of the so called great thinking TC leaders and newspapers are making a stupid mistakes by making such stupid comments to justify the presence of the Turkish Troops, because incidences such as Pile/Pyla warrants it.

Really.?? Are they blind as well as stupid to make such comments. The Turkish Military is already in Cyprus, 40,000 of them, and yet, they did not prevent from the "Pile incident" from happening, therefore, does that not mean that the presence of the troops had ZERO deterrence on those who committed these vandalism, specially when there is a Turkish Military post on a hill right over the town of Pile overlooking the UN-129 post, which is guarded 24/7 with night vision equipments no doubt.

So let me get this straight. Some vandals (GC's or TC's or Settlers...we don't know yet) under the noses of the Turkish Military decided to cause damage that brought every CLOWN for a politician to Pile to investigate what is normally handled by local police officer. So the question that jumps up for me more and more is, was this a planned "attack" to bring these CLOWNS into town of Pile to make such statements as the one Halil posted, without even realising how stupid their comments was going to be, that even under the noses of 40,000 Turkish Troops, such acts were not prevented, but wanted to make justification in keeping them. Where the hell did we find such incompetent CLOWNS to lead us is my question, because trying to make justifications in keeping the troops for the safety of the TC's, sorry, I meant to say safety of the TC's cars, buildings and objects of worship ( Ataturk's statue) has as much justification in keeping the TT's as having the Death Penalty in the USA as a deterrent for crime which is not working, since there are thousands on Death Row in the USA.

If this incident proves anything, it proves that we don't need the Turkish Troops for protection, as the Pile incident proves very clearly, but instead greater understanding between the communities and respect for law and order where any criminal acts will be dealt with according to the law, regardless of who the perpetrators were, and who the victims are. The only thing the Turkish Troops are doing, is maintaining the division of the island and nothing else. If the division is the object, then the Turkish Troops are in the right place and all the CLOWNS knows it.
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Postby halil » Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:31 pm

It is easy to find excuses . once more have look what the village Muhtars said yesterday .

The two mukhtars said that although Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot relations have been good, since March this year 10 serious incidents have broken out in the village.

I am not after the anything as you are saying about me .

first of all Kikapu in Pile there was no Turkish troops or Greek troops.

Troops of both sides are stationed at hills of the village .They are far away from the places we are talking .When you come to Cyprus next time go and see the position of the place .

both mukhtars are complaining since march 10 serious incidents happened and all these are happened front of the multi national controlled place .... why still they didn't find them to bring front of the justice .

who are they ? why they are doing this ?

If we ignore these things tomorrow they can do more .
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