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Postby magikthrill » Tue May 10, 2005 6:58 pm

gabaston wrote:Do you not see 5 gc violations prior to the invasion.
And if they are not enough, theres another 1 after the invasion, making a total of 6 gc violations to article one alone.


Actually I only see 4 GC violations in total but either way the GCs do not plan on taking anyone to court for this Treaty which they were obviously forced to sign.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 10, 2005 7:00 pm

magikthrill wrote:hehe

I think that what Kifeas is saying is that Turkey cannot take the EU to court unless she takes herself to court first. :)

So its not so much that the Treaty became null and void in 1974 but rather Turkey refuses to abide by it so it can be used by Turkey in court anymore.


Me alla logia "tha paei gia malli kai that figei kouremeni"

In other words "she will go in for some hair implant but she will get out with a shaved head."
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Postby cannedmoose » Tue May 10, 2005 7:07 pm

:lol: :lol: Brilliant Kifeas, i'll have to use that expression sometime :lol:
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Postby gabaston » Tue May 10, 2005 7:12 pm

i wont anwser that Kifeas since Magic can see 4.

and these are obvious- Thank you Magic

The interesting one that happened after is

6) undertakes not to participate, in whole or in part, in any political or economic union with any State whatsoever………………………………………………..Eu???????????????

Very big words here are "whole or in part", and "whatsover"
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 10, 2005 7:17 pm

gabaston wrote:i wont anwser that Kifeas since Magic can see 4.

and these are obvious- Thank you Magic

The interesting one that happened after is

6) undertakes not to participate, in whole or in part, in any political or economic union with any State whatsoever………………………………………………..Eu???????????????

Very big words here are "whole or in part", and "whatsover"


The treaty states clearly that the RoC "undertakes not to participate, in whole or in part, in any political or economic union with any State whatsoever."

Is the European Union a State?

The answer is "No."
The E.U. is not a State.
The E.U. is a political and economic union of indepented sates.

Therefore the RoC does not violate the treaty by becoming a member of the E.U.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 10, 2005 7:19 pm

cannedmoose wrote::lol: :lol: Brilliant Kifeas, i'll have to use that expression sometime :lol:


Thanks cannedmoose! :)

It is a free translation from a Greek saying.
Do you have an english saying that gives a similar meanning?
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Postby magikthrill » Tue May 10, 2005 7:20 pm

Kifeas wrote:
The treaty states clearly that the RoC "undertakes not to participate, in whole or in part, in any political or economic union with any State whatsoever."

Is the European Union a State?

The answer is "No."
The E.U. is not a State.
The E.U. is a political and economic union of indepented sates.

Therefore the RoC does not violate the treaty by becoming a member of the E.U.


Hmmm that is an interesting loophole there. I never even realized that.
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Postby gabaston » Tue May 10, 2005 7:23 pm

thank you magic
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Postby magikthrill » Tue May 10, 2005 7:26 pm

your welcome gabaston. but for what?
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Tue May 10, 2005 7:26 pm

magikthrill wrote:your welcome gabaston. but for what?

For using the word 'loophole'?
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