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[Oracle]

Piratis
What evidence do you have to support your claim that "similarly most Turks of today think it is fine to ethnically cleanse Greek Cypriots and take their lands because Greek Cypriots are "evil" and need to be punished." ?

You made this up.

This might qualify as evidence for making us fear the Turks are not only out to punish us, but also annihilate us ....

HATRED

As long as the vulgar Greek exists in this world
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
As long as I see him there like a dog
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of infidel Gavours cannot wash away this hatred.

My only aim is revenge
When my turn comes to go to battle
In one day I'll butcher a thousand Gavours
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of infidel Gavours cannot wash away this hatred.

Even if I crush thirty thousand of their heads with a stone
Even if I wrench out the teeth of ten thousand
And throw a hundred thousand of their corpses into the river
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of infidel Gavours cannot wash away this hatred.

The whole world knows how superior the Turk is
Who crashed the Greek's fucked world over his head
Even if I burn in stokeholes the heads of five thousand of them
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of infidel Gavours cannot wash away this hatred.

Even if I slash forty thousand of them with my bayonet
And send eighty thousand of them to the devil
And hang a hundred thousand of them
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of infidel Gavours cannot wash away this hatred.

[CopperLine]

It might qualify as evidence of anything your febrile imagination can hallucinate. An unsourced, unverifiable piece of abysmal 'poetry' used in some goth performance art is not evidence of anything that you claimed - not government policy, not the feelings of 70 million people, not the intentions of any one.


Oh and by the way, here's another blog endorsement of this hatred which was used in some weird opera, Diamanda Galas:

She is so overlooked in the spooky scene. To me she is the tops, The spookiest of the spooky. When I was just 18, I had an acid kult of sorts. We had acid tests. This was one of them. One of our rights of passage in our crew was at least 3 hits of strong lsd, and 3 hrs of Diamanda(litanies of satan) while peaking.

[utu]

Don't you all get bored of these conversations?

This forum needs some fun.

Or at the very least, sober and passionate debate. Too much nationalist hatred here, and if you try and bring the hard-liners some degree of sanity, you're automatically their implaccable enemy...

[Oracle]

It might qualify as evidence of anything your febrile imagination can hallucinate. An unsourced, unverifiable piece of abysmal 'poetry' used in some goth performance art is not evidence of anything that you claimed - not government policy, not the feelings of 70 million people, not the intentions of any one.

It was published in a Turkish newspaper (Hurriyet) a few days before the invasion ... therefore "sourced".

[CopperLine]

A religious extremist posts this on the internet - one of only two citations on a Google trawl of the entire internet - and you take that as evidence ! You really are the pits.

[Oracle]

A religious extremist posts this on the internet - one of only two citations on a Google trawl of the entire internet - and you take that as evidence ! You really are the pits.

Aaahhh so you did verify it ... do you deny it was published in a Turkish newspaper?

Maybe the Turkish propaganda machine has been "tidying up" ....

How many times have you denied anything you simply do not like today, CopperLine ...

[miltiades]

Don't you all get bored of these conversations?

This forum needs some fun.

Or at the very least, sober and passionate debate. Too much nationalist hatred here, and if you try and bring the hard-liners some degree of sanity, you're automatically their implacable enemy...

You are so right Utu .
Hatred is , as far as I'm concerned , mostly based on misconception and misinterpretation of people and events.
Just look at how much naked hatred there is on this forum for America !!
I hate what Turkey has done to our island but I'm damned if I hate the T/Cs for it . They were the victims of hatred spread by the extremists just as the G/Cs were . We , the true Cypriots , T/Cs and G/Cs are standing firm and demand that our people are given the opportunity of peace and stability on our island . There is much to be done from both sides to get our Cypriot people to ditch for ever the chains that restrict their freedom as Cypriots .
To hell , I say , to Turkey and Greece , Long live the island of Cyprus !!

[CopperLine]

My dear Fuhrer everyone in England is profoundly moved by the bloodless solution to the Czechoslovakian problem. People not so much concerned with territorial readjustment as with dread of another war with its accompanying bloodbath. Frederick the Great was a great popular figure. I salute your excellency's star which rises higher and higher.

A telegram sent by Lord Rothermere, owner of the Daily Mail, to Adolf Hitler days before the Nazi takeover of Czechoslovakia. Should this be taken of evidence of the wish of Britons wish to support Nazi Germany, exterminate Jews and annihilate untermenschen ? No of course not. It reflects the views of one powerful man, or at most, a particular section of the British ruling class. It does not constitute evidence of the what Britons in toto thought about Hitler or Nazism.

You, Oracle, come along here and produce some tawdry unverified piece of text which a religious extremist and goth opera group claim came from Hurriyet and assert that this is the view of Turkish people as a whole. You're stark raving bonkers.


Oracle, if you think that doing a Google trawl constitutes 'verification' then I know why you are no longer a scientist. With scientific rigour like that who needs a mystic.

[Oracle]

CopperLine and his denials

Desperate Turk in denial.

It is not scientific to pick and choose what you wish to view as evidence. You have to throw it all in the pot. You found two references to the poem, but you did not like that .... they did not fit in with what you wanted to believe, so you denied them.

CopperLine if you are the only one who can admit and dismiss evidence ... then Hail CopperLine you have achieved the status of the man you are most obsessed with ... you are a Hitler in denial!

Reality and desire ....

[CopperLine]

Oracle : mad as a box of frogs