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[Oracle]

only for you Stella http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/

Iceman ... the more you try to silence me, the more of a Turk you do become ...

My objections are to the Turkish presence .... your objections are to a woman stating such things ... you are not only a sexist but a true Turk!

Learn to be comfortable in your own skin!

Denial is the problem in your case ............ unfortunately I end up being the victim of what you are battling against .

Not nice iceman

Simply saying you are a Cypriot does not wash with me, and that is your frustration ... because you have not fooled me like you have done to others (and yourself ... poor iceman ... trapped in Turkey!)

[Oracle]

No, I definitely do not approve of her constant tirades and often racist comments.

.... but then of course, you'll always agree with whatever you think makes you look good (I wonder how Iceman knew to pick on you to answer that ... oh yeah he must think you're a sycophant ).

Have any more Greeks been nasty to you for being a "Cypriot"?

[Sotos]

Its obvious you GCs have a racist phobia about Turks dont blame you they whipped your arses in 1974 and could do it over and over again, no wonder you feel threatened. The best policy is not to make Turks your enemy, then you will have a great relationship but you wrong them and you will pay the price heavily, you people shoudl have learned your lesson but it appears you are just as stupis as you were back then. Like I always say placing a saddle on a donkey doesnt make it a race horse.

We didn't choose to be your enemy you idiot. You invaded our island and wanted to steal our land and expand against us. And great relationship with Turks like what? Like giving to you our lands and let you violate our rights? You are hated because you are criminal thieves and you want to take our island and our rights from us. Racists are those who hate others for no reason. Like you, who invaded our island without us harming you first!

Was that before or after you treated us like shit and stole our properties burning them down to the ground? or forcing us to accept that Cyprus be gifted to Greece?

LONG BEFORE because we only defended ourselves from your attacks. But also AFTER because you never stopped! And how many of your properties were burned down? Like 1/100th of the properties you stole from us! If you think you suffered because we had to defend ourselves then you can imagine how it was for us that we had invading Turks keep invading our island and killing us! You keep doing this over and over and over for the last 400 years. Kill Cypriots, steal our properties, bring Settlers from Turkey and give to them our lands. This is what you do today also. How did you think Turkish minority was created in our island? BY KILLING CYPRIOTS STEALING OUR LANDS AND GIVING IT TO FUCKING TURKS! And you keep doing this now!!!!!!!!! Don't you call the Settlers that you brought just 30 years ago as Cypriots? No Regret for your crimes at all!! And then you want us to like you??

[Nikitas]

No, I definitely do not approve of her constant tirades and often racist comments.

.... but then of course, you'll always agree with whatever you think makes you look good (I wonder how Iceman knew to pick on you to answer that ... oh yeah he must think you're a sycophant ).

Have any more Greeks been nasty to you for being a "Cypriot"?

Stella,

Cut the crap! Your comments are often racist. And no, I do not always agree with what makes me look good. Iceman did not pick me, he responded to a post. Read the sequence again.

The Greek versus Cypriot thing does not come into it.

[Oracle]

No, I definitely do not approve of her constant tirades and often racist comments.

.... but then of course, you'll always agree with whatever you think makes you look good (I wonder how Iceman knew to pick on you to answer that ... oh yeah he must think you're a sycophant ).

Have any more Greeks been nasty to you for being a "Cypriot"?

Stella,

Cut the crap! Your comments are often racist. And no, I do not always agree with what makes me look good. Iceman did not pick me, he responded to a post. Read the sequence again.

The Greek versus Cypriot thing does not come into it.

You have often been called racist on this forum too; yesterday there was an example on another thread. Does that mean you are? .... or someone is just reacting to a post which expresses your view about one particular, one-sided situation?

What are the credentials of the person accusing you? Yesterday you had one Turk accusing you, and I had another accusing me. What does that mean?

I am not so shallow to immediately accuse another poster of being something or not, unless I have to react to defend myself. Hence I make general statements (I hate bloody Turks ... note benne, I do not hate nice Turks!), and I do not pick on individuals. Yet look how often those who cannot counter those arguments turn round to merely accuse me? I don't care and I am not complaining ... but I expect the more intelligent to see through that though!

Differences of opinion do not necessarily make you racist, just as it does not make me racist when I express my hate for Turks. There are ample reasons why I hate Turks, if only because of what I have suffered through their actions to my country.

It's not an unfounded hate, but from personal expeience! And it is not because I think they are genetically inferior, because I have no doubts their DNA is no different to mine.

Yet when you stereotype Greeks and their treatment of you because you say they only see you as an inferior Cypriot, and you express your loathing for their behaviour towards you and, how it affects your status and promotional levels ..... By the same logic, are you not being racist?

Double standards Nikitas ....

[Nikitas]

Read the phrase "I hate Turks". What does it convey?

When have you read in any of my posts that I hate Greeks or anyone else? I stressed the use of local stereotypes to ridicule those that do not fit the Athenocentric profile. And it is a fact, you can listen to a Cypriot being the butt end of jokes on the most popular radio channel in Greece nearly every day between 1 and 2 pm. Dislike it? Sure. Hate the people who do it? No.

[Oracle]

Read the phrase "I hate Turks". What does it convey?

When have you read in any of my posts that I hate Greeks or anyone else? I stressed the use of local stereotypes to ridicule those that do not fit the Athenocentric profile. And it is a fact, you can listen to a Cypriot being the butt end of jokes on the most popular radio channel in Greece nearly every day between 1 and 2 pm. Dislike it? Sure. Hate the people who do it? No.

I am allowed to hate whom I consider the enemy of my people without being a racist!

Now if I had to offer a job to a Greek or a Turk and thought one would do the job better than the other because of their "race" ... then I would be a racist!

You singled out Greeks ... that is the same, using your logic!

[Sotos]

Is there anybody that doesn't hate the one who harms him? We don't hate ALL turks but tell me how many Turks or TC are there that don't want to take our lands? 100 or 1000 out of the 70 million? They are just the exception that confirms the rule!

[vaughanwilliams]

You did choose to be TC's enemy and thereby Turkeys enemy.
They "invaded your land" to stop you killing TC's.
You wanted to take TC's lives and land and hand them to Greece.
And you didn't want to take TC's island and rights from them?
You seriously don't believe that Turkey "invaded your island without you harming them first"?
If they had wanted to deprive you of your rights and land in 1974 they would have pushed you into the sea and made you flee to Greece as you wanted to do with TC's to Turkey.

[Sotos]

You did choose to be TC's enemy and thereby Turkeys enemy.
They "invaded your land" to stop you killing TC's.
You wanted to take TC's lives and land and hand them to Greece.
And you didn't want to take TC's island and rights from them?
You seriously don't believe that Turkey "invaded your island without you harming them first"?
If they had wanted to deprive you of your rights and land in 1974 they would have pushed you into the sea and made you flee to Greece as you wanted to do with TC's to Turkey.

Lies. The Turks invaded our land in 1571 to EXPAND against our island. So they are the ones who harmed us FIRST. If the Turks did not attack us FIRST and did not harm us FIRST then there would NO Turks in Cyprus and therefore NO PROBLEMS. The problem is the Turkish expansionism against Cyprus. And we never wanted to take the lands of those Turks in Cyprus even thought they stole them from us. What we wanted was our FREEDOM. The Turks could stay in our island like the other Turks stay in Greece. If they didn't like it then they could fuck off from where they came from.