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Postby Filitsa » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:05 pm

Oracle wrote:That's not Romance :roll:

That is dependence!

If you are nothing without someone, then why should that someone, want you?... It means they have to make you into someone, because you are nothing.

Nobody wants a nothing! ... Romancing is about respecting each other's attributes.
If your partner has nothing, except what they get from you, why would you want to be with them?

Unless you want to dominate them and enslave them, and have power over them. Relationships which are not on an equal footing are doomed to failure.

(And all you pathetic no-thinking types (who probably are nothings) can stop trying to insult me with non-analysis ...... and concentrate on the post contents to do with the meaning of the statement :wink: )

BTW ... Perhaps you might learn something from this:

I do not view being alone as being "lonely" ... that is pathetic. But the more I try and drive people away with my remarks (because I do not get nearly enough solitude), the more they seem to want to cling to me ... Funny old World! :lol:


To an extent, I agree, Oracle. The statement is dramatic, disingenuous, and indicative of either a self esteem problem or an "I-want-to-get-into-your-pants" problem. I'd run the other way ... and fast!
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Postby Jeannie00 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:00 pm

No .. is more than dependence.. is OBSESSION to the eyes of the world.. that its become into a religion for the one that thinks each second on the other.. that just Transform the time suffered (without the ONE) into a step to climb to get the person... is a COMPULSIVE act that if you are in your room alone then you talk as if the person is by your side.. if you sleep you say goodnight before to go to sleep and you are not calm even if you hold the pillow to dont asfixate in the LONELLY DARKNESS.. Is a SCHIXOFRENIA (greek word)... when you walk you have him/her infront of your eyes.. and you find yourself talking to the air with the eyes left in the asphalt moving your hands giving excuses to the person for the mistake that the life brought to them.. that distance that is making a mess into their needs.. and even if the world says that you wont do it that you wont make to be toguether.. you are there holding the last hope that just you can open with your hands.....is not up to the rest..... you dont have ears or eyes for anyone.. you just want ONE thing.. only there then you can show in what you became just because that EMPTYNESS is inside of you.. So if you want to talk about scientific results.. yeah love is nothing that seems to look like sanity and not even about logic.. If you can make CRAZY things for what you want and just to be with the other you love.. then you are showing yourself what you can give for love.. and that means anyone else will get in the way of the couple.. cause when you are inlove you give all.. and that person will get inlove with you cause you will give security with no need to ask to quit to his/hers freedom and because you are giving everything what that person wants from love. Then you are lucky because you respect what the other is (if the person who you love is free then you are not asking to the other anything but to be in your thoughts) and when you have all then you feel the security that love gives, so the other can feel and see it to. Like this you dont feel alone or lonely or even the solitude cause you can share everything with the other and you wont ask anything cause everything will come back to you.. that is love :)YOU ARE CAUSE LOVE (THE ONE) MAKES YOU TO BE.

If you are looking for answers... then here it is.. In the way you are becoming LOVE cause love nestle in you, then you show to the eyes of the other what you are, and in that way he/she want that cause is nowhere to be found in any market or any corner, bar, club or job. The question is.. would you take LOVE?

The one who cant understand it, then NEVER EVER have been inlove.. and all the luck to the ones that thinks love is pathetic.. cause they will live in mysery. The difference between an animal and a human is to choose.. and love is one choice.

I think the words are to give your point of view in life.. it all depends in who gives the view.

I dont want to convince you .. this is the work of each of us if you choose to do it. This is just to keep safe a hope (just the SILENCE will understand)
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Postby LENA » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:08 pm

kafenes wrote:
LENA wrote:Δεν είμαι τίποτα χωρίς εσένα.


Doesn't this translate to: "I am not nothing without you"?

Shouldn't it be "Eίμαι τίποτα χωρίς εσένα"?


Yes Kafene you are right....what I wrote it means I am not nothing without you....the member who asked translation added the "δεν" thats why I added that as well. If she/he meant "I am nothing without you" then it doesnt need the "δεν" at the beginning. If I am not wrong she/he asked for translation.
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Postby tayl0r » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:11 pm

You need to feel human emotion :)

It doesn't make a person weak to be in love. It makes them amazing.
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Postby Jeannie00 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:13 pm

"Eίμαι τίποτα χωρίς εσένα" this means IM NOTHING WITH OUT YOU? ?... there is no wrong in the translation at all?? ..
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Postby LENA » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:15 pm

Jeannie00 wrote:"Eίμαι τίποτα χωρίς εσένα" this means IM NOTHING WITH OUT YOU? ?... there is no wrong in the translation at all?? ..


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Postby Bananiot » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:16 pm

I think it is a great line and people that question motives behind this are generally square people who have never realised the power of love (not necessarily the kind that is only interested in the perpetuation of the species).
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Postby Jeannie00 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:19 pm

Then what is the right translation to this line?? IM NOTHING WITHOUT YOU .... lol I only want the translation in greek and now also latins characters please.. if you do me the favour.. :) :) muchas gracias a todos..
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Postby Oracle » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:30 pm

Filitsa wrote:
Oracle wrote:That's not Romance :roll:

That is dependence!

If you are nothing without someone, then why should that someone, want you?... It means they have to make you into someone, because you are nothing.

Nobody wants a nothing! ... Romancing is about respecting each other's attributes.
If your partner has nothing, except what they get from you, why would you want to be with them?

Unless you want to dominate them and enslave them, and have power over them. Relationships which are not on an equal footing are doomed to failure.

(And all you pathetic no-thinking types (who probably are nothings) can stop trying to insult me with non-analysis ...... and concentrate on the post contents to do with the meaning of the statement :wink: )

BTW ... Perhaps you might learn something from this:

I do not view being alone as being "lonely" ... that is pathetic. But the more I try and drive people away with my remarks (because I do not get nearly enough solitude), the more they seem to want to cling to me ... Funny old World! :lol:


To an extent, I agree, Oracle. The statement is dramatic, disingenuous, and indicative of either a self esteem problem or an "I-want-to-get-into-your-pants" problem. I'd run the other way ... and fast!


I think we are both post-feminist upholders of equality :wink:

I am often the shoulder people cry on, and I don't mind bucking up people's morale's, but I cannot "love" a needy "nothing" person.

Give me a strong minded, independent individual anytime, who can rock the boat and question, without worry for "image" ... Real leaders ... not followers 8)
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Postby Filitsa » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:35 pm

Jeannie00 wrote:No .. is more than dependence.. is OBSESSION to the eyes of the world.. that its become into a religion for the one that thinks each second on the other.. that just Transform the time suffered (without the ONE) into a step to climb to get the person... is a COMPULSIVE act that if you are in your room alone then you talk as if the person is by your side.. if you sleep you say goodnight before to go to sleep and you are not calm even if you hold the pillow to dont asfixate in the LONELLY DARKNESS.. Is a SCHIXOFRENIA (greek word)... when you walk you have him/her infront of your eyes.. and you find yourself talking to the air with the eyes left in the asphalt moving your hands giving excuses to the person for the mistake that the life brought to them.. that distance that is making a mess into their needs.. and even if the world says that you wont do it that you wont make to be toguether.. you are there holding the last hope that just you can open with your hands.....is not up to the rest..... you dont have ears or eyes for anyone.. you just want ONE thing.. only there then you can show in what you became just because that EMPTYNESS is inside of you.. So if you want to talk about scientific results.. yeah love is nothing that seems to look like sanity and not even about logic.. If you can make CRAZY things for what you want and just to be with the other you love.. then you are showing yourself what you can give for love.. and that means anyone else will get in the way of the couple.. cause when you are inlove you give all.. and that person will get inlove with you cause you will give security with no need to ask to quit to his/hers freedom and because you are giving everything what that person wants from love. Then you are lucky because you respect what the other is (if the person who you love is free then you are not asking to the other anything but to be in your thoughts) and when you have all then you feel the security that love gives, so the other can feel and see it to. Like this you dont feel alone or lonely or even the solitude cause you can share everything with the other and you wont ask anything cause everything will come back to you.. that is love :)YOU ARE CAUSE LOVE (THE ONE) MAKES YOU TO BE.

If you are looking for answers... then here it is.. In the way you are becoming LOVE cause love nestle in you, then you show to the eyes of the other what you are, and in that way he/she want that cause is nowhere to be found in any market or any corner, bar, club or job. The question is.. would you take LOVE?

The one who cant understand it, then NEVER EVER have been inlove.. and all the luck to the ones that thinks love is pathetic.. cause they will live in mysery. The difference between an animal and a human is to choose.. and love is one choice.

I think the words are to give your point of view in life.. it all depends in who gives the view.

I dont want to convince you .. this is the work of each of us if you choose to do it. This is just to keep safe a hope (just the SILENCE will understand)


:lol: Live together, buy a house together, or have kids together. Then you'll see how fast this "obsession" that you call love will change. By the way, schizophrenia is a mental illness, a psychotic disorder to be precise. I do hope you're "putting us on."
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