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[Bananiot]

Stop bloody shouting, we can hear you!

[Mr. T]

Only Turks/British (and some other USA puppets) have a problem with Cyprus my friend. Cyprus joined the EU by meeting all the criteria and because another EU member (Greece) wanted Cyprus in. (like UK wanted Poland and some others in). I hope you understand EU is not the UK and it is not ruled by the British.

Each EU country will take its own decisions regarding its stance in the conflict between two non-Eu countries, as it happened in the case of Kosovo, which is part of the sovereign territory of Serbia, but still some EU countries choose to go against that independent and sovereign country and support the separatists.

What I can tell you from now is that Cyprus will not recognize any separate state in Georgia, or anywhere else, unless this is a UN decision.

If other EU countries want to have a united show of support, they should start by supporting Cyprus, an EU member, which is occupied by the non-EU member, Turkey.

It is rather pathetic to automatically label countries as puppets of the USA because they do not agree with your political views. This is on par with children of primary school age calling others names. Please grow up.

Your statement of the reasons of why countries have joined the EU is equally childish and Greece wanting Cyprus to join (comparable to 'I want Costas in my team') is not how it works. Surely your knowledge is not that poor.

To write 'I hope you understand EU is not the UK and it is not ruled by the British. ' is just pathetic and cannot justify any other response.

Perhaps you will have a better understanding of matters after you leave school.

You obviously do not agree with the aims in the EU to have a common foreign policy but that is your right.

Finally I note you believe that the most important thing that the EU can do is to support Cyprus. I would be interested to know in what manner they should be giving support to Cyprus that it is not already getting.

[Piratis]

Only Turks/British (and some other USA puppets) have a problem with Cyprus my friend. Cyprus joined the EU by meeting all the criteria and because another EU member (Greece) wanted Cyprus in. (like UK wanted Poland and some others in). I hope you understand EU is not the UK and it is not ruled by the British.

Each EU country will take its own decisions regarding its stance in the conflict between two non-Eu countries, as it happened in the case of Kosovo, which is part of the sovereign territory of Serbia, but still some EU countries choose to go against that independent and sovereign country and support the separatists.

What I can tell you from now is that Cyprus will not recognize any separate state in Georgia, or anywhere else, unless this is a UN decision.

If other EU countries want to have a united show of support, they should start by supporting Cyprus, an EU member, which is occupied by the non-EU member, Turkey.

It is rather pathetic to automatically label countries as puppets of the USA because they do not agree with your political views. This is on par with children of primary school age calling others names. Please grow up.

Your statement of the reasons of why countries have joined the EU is equally childish and Greece wanting Cyprus to join (comparable to 'I want Costas in my team') is not how it works. Surely your knowledge is not that poor.

To write 'I hope you understand EU is not the UK and it is not ruled by the British. ' is just pathetic and cannot justify any other response.

Perhaps you will have a better understanding of matters after you leave school.

You obviously do not agree with the aims in the EU to have a common foreign policy but that is your right.

Finally I note you believe that the most important thing that the EU can do is to support Cyprus. I would be interested to know in what manner they should be giving support to Cyprus that it is not already getting.

Mr. T saying words like "pathetic", "childish" etc, will not change the facts that I said earlier.

It is well known that USA leads a group of countries who follow whatever the Americans order, and the UK is the country which does exactly what the Americans order all the time. If you didn't realize this fact then you need to grow some brain.

As far as how EU countries join, it is exactly as I explained earlier. The countries who are already members decide which other countries they want to allow in their Union and which they don't want, as long as those countries meet some criteria. This is how all (apart from the initial countries) joined.

Did you think that the countries that join are only those that the British like? If you didn't like Cyprus to join then why you didn't veto our entry? Because then Greece would veto the accession of the countries that you wanted in. So it is time to realize that you don't own the EU and you don't do whatever you want in it. Cyprus and Greece and far more integrated EU members than the UK, who did not adopt the Euro and does not want to enter the Schengen agreement, and they instead prefer to have closer ties with the USA than the EU.

And "common EU foreign policy" doesn't mean "UK policy" I hope you realize this.

If EU wants to have a common policy then the first thing they should do is to protect their own members, so their own members will not need alliances with 3rd countries in order to support their interests from external threads.

[Oracle]

Only Turks/British (and some other USA puppets) have a problem with Cyprus my friend. Cyprus joined the EU by meeting all the criteria and because another EU member (Greece) wanted Cyprus in. (like UK wanted Poland and some others in). I hope you understand EU is not the UK and it is not ruled by the British.

Each EU country will take its own decisions regarding its stance in the conflict between two non-Eu countries, as it happened in the case of Kosovo, which is part of the sovereign territory of Serbia, but still some EU countries choose to go against that independent and sovereign country and support the separatists.

What I can tell you from now is that Cyprus will not recognize any separate state in Georgia, or anywhere else, unless this is a UN decision.

If other EU countries want to have a united show of support, they should start by supporting Cyprus, an EU member, which is occupied by the non-EU member, Turkey.

It is rather pathetic to automatically label countries as puppets of the USA because they do not agree with your political views. This is on par with children of primary school age calling others names. Please grow up.

Your statement of the reasons of why countries have joined the EU is equally childish and Greece wanting Cyprus to join (comparable to 'I want Costas in my team') is not how it works. Surely your knowledge is not that poor.

To write 'I hope you understand EU is not the UK and it is not ruled by the British. ' is just pathetic and cannot justify any other response.

Perhaps you will have a better understanding of matters after you leave school.

You obviously do not agree with the aims in the EU to have a common foreign policy but that is your right.

Finally I note you believe that the most important thing that the EU can do is to support Cyprus. I would be interested to know in what manner they should be giving support to Cyprus that it is not already getting.

Mr. T saying words like "pathetic", "childish" etc, will not change the facts that I said earlier.

It is well known that USA leads a group of countries who follow whatever the Americans order, and the UK is the country which does exactly what the Americans order all the time. If you didn't realize this fact then you need to grow some brain.

As far as how EU countries join, it is exactly as I explained earlier. The countries who are already members decide which other countries they want to allow in their Union and which they don't want, as long as those countries meet some criteria. This is how all (apart from the initial countries) joined.

Did you think that the countries that join are only those that the British like? If you didn't like Cyprus to join then why you didn't veto our entry? Because then Greece would veto the accession of the countries that you wanted in. So it is time to realize that you don't own the EU and you don't do whatever you want in it. Cyprus and Greece and far more integrated EU members than the UK, who did not adopt the Euro and does not want to enter the Schengen agreement, and they instead prefer to have closer ties with the USA than the EU.

And "common EU foreign policy" doesn't mean "UK policy" I hope you realize this.

If EU wants to have a common policy then the first thing they should do is to protect their own members, so their own members will not need alliances with 3rd countries in order to support their interests from external threads.

This is a good point.

[Mr. T]

Only Turks/British (and some other USA puppets) have a problem with Cyprus my friend. Cyprus joined the EU by meeting all the criteria and because another EU member (Greece) wanted Cyprus in. (like UK wanted Poland and some others in). I hope you understand EU is not the UK and it is not ruled by the British.

Each EU country will take its own decisions regarding its stance in the conflict between two non-Eu countries, as it happened in the case of Kosovo, which is part of the sovereign territory of Serbia, but still some EU countries choose to go against that independent and sovereign country and support the separatists.

What I can tell you from now is that Cyprus will not recognize any separate state in Georgia, or anywhere else, unless this is a UN decision.

If other EU countries want to have a united show of support, they should start by supporting Cyprus, an EU member, which is occupied by the non-EU member, Turkey.

It is rather pathetic to automatically label countries as puppets of the USA because they do not agree with your political views. This is on par with children of primary school age calling others names. Please grow up.

Your statement of the reasons of why countries have joined the EU is equally childish and Greece wanting Cyprus to join (comparable to 'I want Costas in my team') is not how it works. Surely your knowledge is not that poor.

To write 'I hope you understand EU is not the UK and it is not ruled by the British. ' is just pathetic and cannot justify any other response.

Perhaps you will have a better understanding of matters after you leave school.

You obviously do not agree with the aims in the EU to have a common foreign policy but that is your right.

Finally I note you believe that the most important thing that the EU can do is to support Cyprus. I would be interested to know in what manner they should be giving support to Cyprus that it is not already getting.

Mr. T saying words like "pathetic", "childish" etc, will not change the facts that I said earlier.

It is well known that USA leads a group of countries who follow whatever the Americans order, and the UK is the country which does exactly what the Americans order all the time. If you didn't realize this fact then you need to grow some brain.

As far as how EU countries join, it is exactly as I explained earlier. The countries who are already members decide which other countries they want to allow in their Union and which they don't want, as long as those countries meet some criteria. This is how all (apart from the initial countries) joined.

Did you think that the countries that join are only those that the British like? If you didn't like Cyprus to join then why you didn't veto our entry? Because then Greece would veto the accession of the countries that you wanted in. So it is time to realize that you don't own the EU and you don't do whatever you want in it. Cyprus and Greece and far more integrated EU members than the UK, who did not adopt the Euro and does not want to enter the Schengen agreement, and they instead prefer to have closer ties with the USA than the EU.

And "common EU foreign policy" doesn't mean "UK policy" I hope you realize this.

If EU wants to have a common policy then the first thing they should do is to protect their own members, so their own members will not need alliances with 3rd countries in order to support their interests from external threads.

I have read quite a few of your posts since joining this forum and it immediately became evident that you are the most blinkered GC contributor on the forum and once you have got something into your mind and no matter what proof is placed before you you adhere to your preconceived views.

This is again proved by you saying that facts are facts when they are not. I am not sure whether you continue in your ignorance or whether this is a stance you take for fun.

I don't admire the USA and like many here in Britain cannot understand why we go to their aide so often but to say that we do it because we are ordered to do so is stupid to the 'nth degree. Perhaps you believe this in which case that is sad.

What is this rubbish about Britain and vetoing Cyprus's entry to the EU. It is not a matter of not liking a country it is a matter of what one considers is good for ones country and for the EU. We didn't think Cyprus joining was a bad thing at the time. You probably don't remember that it was touch and go whether Greece entered the EU when it did due to it being so backward at the time. Your idea that Greece would veto countries joining that Britain and others were happy to let join does not hold water as being a fairly insignificant member state Greece behaving in such a manner would not be in its interest and I doubt that they would behave that irresponsibly anyway. They are not Russia after all.

Your second explanation of the system for entry to the EU although basic is somewhat better than your first entry whereby you basically said that Cyprus joined because Greece wanted Cyprus as a member.

It is laughable that you consider yourself well integrated into the EU because you have adopted the euro and the Schengen agreement as have only 14 other member states. Adopting the euro should be an economic decision with the euro only replacing the national currency when the time is right not because of just keeping ones currency. It is apparent from your comment that you don't comprehend this. It is a decision that should not be taken lightly, particularly by small economies as interest rate decisions are taken to suit the economies of the large nations such as Germany and France and such decisions could be the opposite of what smaller countries need. South Cyprus may yet suffer from the rush to lose the Cyprus £.

You have responded with the expected drivel but not answered my question. If there is any point to your comment about EU support please do .

[DT.]

Only Turks/British (and some other USA puppets) have a problem with Cyprus my friend. Cyprus joined the EU by meeting all the criteria and because another EU member (Greece) wanted Cyprus in. (like UK wanted Poland and some others in). I hope you understand EU is not the UK and it is not ruled by the British.

Each EU country will take its own decisions regarding its stance in the conflict between two non-Eu countries, as it happened in the case of Kosovo, which is part of the sovereign territory of Serbia, but still some EU countries choose to go against that independent and sovereign country and support the separatists.

What I can tell you from now is that Cyprus will not recognize any separate state in Georgia, or anywhere else, unless this is a UN decision.

If other EU countries want to have a united show of support, they should start by supporting Cyprus, an EU member, which is occupied by the non-EU member, Turkey.

It is rather pathetic to automatically label countries as puppets of the USA because they do not agree with your political views. This is on par with children of primary school age calling others names. Please grow up.

Your statement of the reasons of why countries have joined the EU is equally childish and Greece wanting Cyprus to join (comparable to 'I want Costas in my team') is not how it works. Surely your knowledge is not that poor.

To write 'I hope you understand EU is not the UK and it is not ruled by the British. ' is just pathetic and cannot justify any other response.

Perhaps you will have a better understanding of matters after you leave school.

You obviously do not agree with the aims in the EU to have a common foreign policy but that is your right.

Finally I note you believe that the most important thing that the EU can do is to support Cyprus. I would be interested to know in what manner they should be giving support to Cyprus that it is not already getting.

Mr. T saying words like "pathetic", "childish" etc, will not change the facts that I said earlier.

It is well known that USA leads a group of countries who follow whatever the Americans order, and the UK is the country which does exactly what the Americans order all the time. If you didn't realize this fact then you need to grow some brain.

As far as how EU countries join, it is exactly as I explained earlier. The countries who are already members decide which other countries they want to allow in their Union and which they don't want, as long as those countries meet some criteria. This is how all (apart from the initial countries) joined.

Did you think that the countries that join are only those that the British like? If you didn't like Cyprus to join then why you didn't veto our entry? Because then Greece would veto the accession of the countries that you wanted in. So it is time to realize that you don't own the EU and you don't do whatever you want in it. Cyprus and Greece and far more integrated EU members than the UK, who did not adopt the Euro and does not want to enter the Schengen agreement, and they instead prefer to have closer ties with the USA than the EU.

And "common EU foreign policy" doesn't mean "UK policy" I hope you realize this.

If EU wants to have a common policy then the first thing they should do is to protect their own members, so their own members will not need alliances with 3rd countries in order to support their interests from external threads.

I have read quite a few of your posts since joining this forum and it immediately became evident that you are the most blinkered GC contributor on the forum and once you have got something into your mind and no matter what proof is placed before you you adhere to your preconceived views.

This is again proved by you saying that facts are facts when they are not. I am not sure whether you continue in your ignorance or whether this is a stance you take for fun.

I don't admire the USA and like many here in Britain cannot understand why we go to their aide so often but to say that we do it because we are ordered to do so is stupid to the 'nth degree. Perhaps you believe this in which case that is sad.

What is this rubbish about Britain and vetoing Cyprus's entry to the EU. It is not a matter of not liking a country it is a matter of what one considers is good for ones country and for the EU. We didn't think Cyprus joining was a bad thing at the time. You probably don't remember that it was touch and go whether Greece entered the EU when it did due to it being so backward at the time. Your idea that Greece would veto countries joining that Britain and others were happy to let join does not hold water as being a fairly insignificant member state Greece behaving in such a manner would not be in its interest and I doubt that they would behave that irresponsibly anyway. They are not Russia after all.

Your second explanation of the system for entry to the EU although basic is somewhat better than your first entry whereby you basically said that Cyprus joined because Greece wanted Cyprus as a member.

It is laughable that you consider yourself well integrated into the EU because you have adopted the euro and the Schengen agreement as have only 14 other member states. Adopting the euro should be an economic decision with the euro only replacing the national currency when the time is right not because of just keeping ones currency. It is apparent from your comment that you don't comprehend this. It is a decision that should not be taken lightly, particularly by small economies as interest rate decisions are taken to suit the economies of the large nations such as Germany and France and such decisions could be the opposite of what smaller countries need. South Cyprus may yet suffer from the rush to lose the Cyprus £.

You have responded with the expected drivel but not answered my question. If there is any point to your comment about EU support please do .

Ok...he's turkish

[Kifeas]

I am confusing nothing. For two days we had Karadjic in our homes hosting a criminal whom we adored, because he was orthodox and he was killing muslim women and kids.

Let me tell you something, Bananiot! Even so, you should only blame your EDI party fellows and the collision government they formed with DISY, because what you describe above may only have happened during Kleride's term, i.e. the time your party was in the government and Papapetrou was its spokesman! You are such a twisted hypocrite!

[Kikapu]

Most American were worried when they heard of fighting in Georgia because they thought it was in the state between Florida and South Carolina. When they realised where the fighting was their response was to change channels..

Actually Nikitas, they probably said something like this;

"What !. There's another Georgia somewhere else other than the one in the USA.!!"

"What else will these foreigners steal from us next"!

Then they turned the channel to watch American Wrestling.!

[Nikitas]

Mr T obviously does not know much about the EU,

"You probably don't remember that it was touch and go whether Greece entered the EU when it did due to it being so backward at the time. "

Greece was an associate member of the EU since 1963, while Britain entered in 1972. Greece completed its accession process in 1980. which had started way before Britain was ever allowed to even think of joining. Recall those resounding "Non" from General DeGaulle? They were not directed at Greece. Now we know he had a point.

[Nikitas]

This is no joke.

"Georgia is a member state ot the UN with full sovereignty and internationally recognised borders" said Condoleeza. So the USA accepts that sovereign states should not be invaded and parts of their territory occupied! Wow!