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ILLEGAL FISHING BY TURKISH SHIPS IN CYPRUS

Postby brother » Mon May 09, 2005 1:44 pm

This is from kibris gazetesi;

http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/?newsid=20791&category=3

Its in turkish but the story is about how 70, yes that is not a mis-type 70 turkish fishing boats have come to cyprus and are fishing illegally and some are wrecking havoc in breeding grounds, this has caused fury among the local population and they are demanding they stop as they are staeling local peoples livleyhood, they argued that they were trying to get away from a storm but thought hey now that we are here we might aswell do a bit of illegal fishing.

Is there no end to the turkish liberties and advantages they take from us cypriots i ask myself.
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Postby garbitsch » Mon May 09, 2005 1:49 pm

Hmm, I think the CTP-DP government is doing something against the illegal workers coming from Turkey as "tourists". They are checked by the police and if they don't have enough money in their pockets, they are sent back where they came from. As for the fishing boats, not only Turks do illegal fishing but the ones from Syria are hunting illegally aswell. Unfortunately, the TRNC can do nothing to stop these. It is an utopic idea to think of TRNC coast guards shooting Turkish and Syrian boats :roll:
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Postby brother » Mon May 09, 2005 1:56 pm

My point is they just keep on taking liberties hence i will always be for stopping all settlers coming to TRNC and sending as many back as possible, are people going to hate me for thinking like this, well like i give a fuck, they are destroying us but we have all become so customed to it that we hardly notice anymore, i mean look at "Dortyol" an entire village made up of settlers who had nothing, just came with the 'shalvar' on their arse and we gave them land and homes for what, the pretty smile on their faces and there are many places like this and us TC dare not venture into these villages, i wonder why.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Mon May 09, 2005 2:13 pm

Brother,
You are one of the very few (if the only) TC that shows opposition to what Turkey has done and continues to do in Cyprus. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. Gradually more and more people will start thinking the way you do. I have said in the past that the settlers are and will be the biggest problem to coming to a solution in Cyprus because the settlers are undermining the rights of all Cypriots. Unless this situation changes the things will only get worse.
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Postby brother » Mon May 09, 2005 2:27 pm

There are many that think like me but so many are afraid of reprisal attacks that they dare not speak out, a family friend has a daughter at school and she was being pestered by a settler, eventually he came and asked for her hand in marriage but the family said 'no' but the daughter was interested so he convinced her to run away with him but she was to help him get into her parents home so he could help her carry her stuff, when he got into the house he stole anything he could get his hands on including her fathers pants and socks(what sort of person steals another mans underwear) and in his scavenging found the takings of her fathers shop.
The police found no trace of them for months and when they did surface the stuff that was stolen was long gone, cut the story short a few years later he got TRNC citezenship then divorced her and made an arranged marriage to a turk like him.

Is this an isolated event and the answer you get is no
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Postby -mikkie2- » Mon May 09, 2005 2:43 pm

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I do sympathise. We have been saying this all along but many TC's on this forum seem to be quite happy with the situation with the settlers. Why is that I wonder?

This problem can only get worse as time goes on. The non solution works much more against the TC's. There has to be a time when things will come to a head. Will we start seeing TC's revolting against the Turks? Will they finally realise that Turkey is in Cyprus for her interests and not the TC's? Will they realise that their future is much better served working together withe the TC's? I don;t really know the answer. I just hope start to see sense and do something about it.
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Postby magikthrill » Mon May 09, 2005 2:47 pm

-mikkie2- wrote:Brother

I do sympathise. We have been saying this all along but many TC's on this forum seem to be quite happy with the situation with the settlers. Why is that I wonder?


Apparently TCs are more concerned with GCs being denied their right to sue Turkey (a foreign country) than with their property being looted and their daughters mistreated.

This problem can only get worse as time goes on. The non solution works much more against the TC's.


This is most definitely not the case mikkie. Its the exact opposite. Unless you are thinking with Piratis menality (of balance of power) which is purely theoretical and highly unlikely.

Will they finally realise that Turkey is in Cyprus for her interests and not the TC's?


I don't think this will bother TCs ever unless Turkey screws them over up front. As long as TCs interests are being carried on then why should they acare if Turkey gets a slice of the pie too?
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Postby metecyp » Mon May 09, 2005 2:48 pm

mikkie2 wrote:I do sympathise. We have been saying this all along but many TC's on this forum seem to be quite happy with the situation with the settlers. Why is that I wonder?

We're not quite happy with the situation in the north but instead of living as a minority in a GC majority with no protections and with the possibility of past repeating itself, we choose to live in the current situation until an agreed solution is reached.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Mon May 09, 2005 2:55 pm

metecyp wrote:We're not quite happy with the situation in the north but instead of living as a minority in a GC majority with no protections and with the possibility of past repeating itself, we choose to live in the current situation until an agreed solution is reached.


So you are quite happy to be a minority compared to the Turks, because that is what is happening. When there are 500000 Turks living in northern Cyprus will you be happy with that as well? Will you still consider that to be the lesser of two evils? Will you finally wake up and actually see things for what they are? I hope you do becuause very soon there will be no TC's left in Cyprus to 'protect' from the GC's.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 09, 2005 2:58 pm

-mikkie2- how do you feel as a GC about your own statement the lesser of 2 evils, sure this general viewpoint of TCs is a reflection of the trust we feel for GCs. How can we overcome this???What can your leadership do???
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