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So you want the truth about Akritas…

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Postby Main_Source » Mon May 09, 2005 1:11 pm

Or what about the fact that even Ataturk wanted a piece of Cyprus and blatently said it. To say the build up to 74 is all in the hands of GC is crap.
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Postby brother » Mon May 09, 2005 1:24 pm

The build up was due to a few nationalist twits but the idea is not to blame the GC people but to identify the people who created the Akritas plan and one of those people is Tassos who now happens to be the ROC president, this is a scarey scenario.
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Re: So you want the truth about Akritas…

Postby magikthrill » Mon May 09, 2005 1:30 pm

Viewpoint wrote:On December 23, 1963 ‘Akritas’ went into action. Blood of the young was shed in abundance on both sides. The foundation stones for partition had been laid. Today, 42 years on, the one state has become two. This is the big achievement of Papadopoulos and his friends.


Keith Kyle wrote:A veteran Turkish diplomat, looking back over the 'enormous and patient work' required to secure Turkey a 'right of say' in Cyprus, described this British statement as 'in a way, a road leading to taksim' (i.e. partition). Taksim became the slogan which was used by the increasingly militant Turkish Cypriots to counter the Greek cry of 'enosis'. In 1957 Küçük declared during a visit to Ankara that Turkey would claim the northern half of the island.


Hmm.. seems to me like the road to partition was laid before 1963.

So GCs are horrible barbarians for HAVING WANTED Enosis as their primary goal, but theres nothing wrong with TCs who CURRENTLY HAVE partition, their primary goal.

I'm confused. Would this be considered a double standard?
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Postby garbitsch » Mon May 09, 2005 1:37 pm

C'mon Magik, I thought you were a bit different. Nobody accused GCs as barbarians... The Turkish side supported Taksim as a counter argument to Enosis. Before Taksim, the Turks saw it beneficial to be with the British against the EOKA and its aim to unify the island with Greece. You very well know this. So, that the Turks wanted Taksim, is because of the G.C's enosis dream. Just because we suceeded to divide the island does not mean that its road wasn't paved by the Greek Cypriots...
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Postby garbitsch » Mon May 09, 2005 1:40 pm

I think Loucas Charalambous is the Greek Cypriot version of Sener Levent. So if the former can be regarded as "traitor", the latter can be declared as the same. No offence huh?
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Postby brother » Mon May 09, 2005 1:51 pm

Speaking the truth does not make you a traitor but an honest human being or someone who believes in cyprus for all cypriots.
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Postby garbitsch » Mon May 09, 2005 1:52 pm

Hmm your satire meter is not on bro' :D
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Postby magikthrill » Mon May 09, 2005 1:54 pm

garbitsch wrote:C'mon Magik, I thought you were a bit different. Nobody accused GCs as barbarians... The Turkish side supported Taksim as a counter argument to Enosis. Before Taksim, the Turks saw it beneficial to be with the British against the EOKA and its aim to unify the island with Greece. You very well know this. So, that the Turks wanted Taksim, is because of the G.C's enosis dream. Just because we suceeded to divide the island does not mean that its road wasn't paved by the Greek Cypriots...


First of all I believe that many GCs did act in a barbarian manner, as did their TC counterparts.

As far as Taksim is concerned although it was in response to the GCs Enosis Dream, this dream was long gone before 1974. The Greek invasion of Cyprus was a military coup not supported by the government of the RoC, since as pointed by the author of the article, this would lead to the diminish of GCs' powers.

In spite of all this, in 1974 partition was achieved.
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Postby brother » Mon May 09, 2005 2:01 pm

Hmm your satire meter is not on bro'



:cry: not myself today :?
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Postby magikthrill » Mon May 09, 2005 2:04 pm

magikthrill wrote:First of all I believe that many GCs did act in a barbarian manner, as did their TC counterparts.

As far as Taksim is concerned although it was in response to the GCs Enosis Dream, this dream was long gone before 1974. The Greek invasion of Cyprus was a military coup not supported by the government of the RoC, since as pointed by the author of the article, this would lead to the diminish of GCs' powers.

In spite of all this, in 1974 partition was achieved.


I want to add that in all fairness the TC administartion of the RoC did NOTHING wrong that lead to the violence outbreak (which apparently was started by TCs but that is irrelevant :-P)

Although both the President and VP condemned the acts of the civilians something tells me that if Makarios was not a total dikhead with his 13 amendments (how DARE he present this without consulting Greece?!?! lol) the violence could have (possibly) presented. Of course this is what you get when you elect a religious figure to be your leader (i dont think i will ever be able to comprehend this!)
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