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Postby Bananiot » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:58 pm

Save your breath Piratis. You know too well that I mean political equality of the two communities, like I said one hundred times so far. How can you be so stupid as to say that I want more rights for muslims and citizens that speak Turkish. Why should I want this? Can we have an adults discussion at last? Is this what you understand by political equality? For some to have more rights than others?
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Postby pantheman » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:22 pm

Bananiot wrote:Save your breath Piratis. You know too well that I mean political equality of the two communities, like I said one hundred times so far. How can you be so stupid as to say that I want more rights for muslims and citizens that speak Turkish. Why should I want this? Can we have an adults discussion at last? Is this what you understand by political equality? For some to have more rights than others?


Bananiot, we all know full what you mean and Piratis is absolutely right. How can you have political equality when one side is a minorty. This is in itself by definition that the minority group must have more power to balance things out.

Yes you are batting for the other side by giving them your voice to help them achieve something over us. Well, you know what you can do, we could do with a few more voices like piratis to keep people like you at bay, because left un attended we will all be slaves to Turkey on this Island.

Is your wife a TC by any chance???? Any of your family members? Becasue as I have said before I can't think what is possessing you to talk the way that you do. You are more than happy to flush the GCs down the plug hole over the turks, why bananiot, why????

Piratis I agree with you 110% and would like you to keep bashing these people, becasue Bananiot is a very dangerous person the the cause.
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:25 pm

I would also like to tell you Piratis that you are stuck in the past. Our planet is fast being transformed into a global village which is inhabited by different people of different cultures, religions, languages etc. For the global village to survive we need to find ways to understand each other. For this to happen we need to teach people to respect difference and cultural diversity. People, even in forums should show respect to each other no matter of opinion differences. Xenophobia and racism have nothing to do with the new environment.

Can you live with the above?
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Postby Piratis » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:27 pm

Bananiot wrote:Save your breath Piratis. You know too well that I mean political equality of the two communities, like I said one hundred times so far. How can you be so stupid as to say that I want more rights for muslims and citizens that speak Turkish. Why should I want this? Can we have an adults discussion at last? Is this what you understand by political equality? For some to have more rights than others?


That is what you and the Turks understand unfortunately. You can find how I understand Political equality in the quote I posted earlier. The way I understand Political Equality every citizen is equal to each other, one person - one vote, with no racist descriminations.

Why you support the Turks discriminating against us I don't know, but I think everybody can guess. There can not be many explanations.
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:27 pm

Have fun with your fascist friend Piratis. He is all yours. Now tell us about 1573.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:29 pm

Bananiot wrote:I would also like to tell you Piratis that you are stuck in the past. Our planet is fast being transformed into a global village which is inhabited by different people of different cultures, religions, languages etc. For the global village to survive we need to find ways to understand each other. For this to happen we need to teach people to respect difference and cultural diversity. People, even in forums should show respect to each other no matter of opinion differences. Xenophobia and racism have nothing to do with the new environment.

Can you live with the above?


In Cyprus we have many other minorities and A LOT of foreigners. I have absolutely no problem with any of them. What I demand is to respect my rights the way I respect theirs. Not to steal my land and violate my democratic rights like the Turks want to do against us. So yes, the Turks should stop their racist behavior and racist actions against us and realize that all citizens should be equal regardless of race or ethnic background.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:52 pm

Bananiot said:

"I think you underestimate the EU factor Nikitas and the momentum the new Cyprus will gain after solution."

I hope you are right, but all indications are that the long term strategy set by the generals holds true.

If it came to more land for a confederal solution I would go for it. For in the end it will become a confederal (if not worse) solution no matter what we hope and think. Like George Ball told major Packard back in 1964: "son, the game here is partition".
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:59 pm

As to how much pressure the GC side can exert, Bananiot, I do not count on the EU for one minute.

What is left in our quiver is basically the formation of new alliances, with nations that are led by men and not pimps, and are determined to assert their presence in the area.

If push comes to shove a union with Greece to counterbalance any moves towards annexation of the north. Not that we do not have annexation now, but at least it is not official yet. The generals are desperate to prevent Greece from becoming a middle Eastern power. And it is one possibility they have not practically excluded. They should be reminded of the possibility now and again.

The test of their sincerity for me will be the military arrangements of the interim period contained in the solution proposals. If they insist on retaining crushing advantages as they did under the Annan plan then I will know. Sincere parties do not need and do not ask for such advantages.
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:04 am

You are still flirting with double union Nikitas. Obviously you do not care much about Greece or Cyprus for Greece will never fight a war with Turkey in Cyprus, unless she wants to commit suicide and take Cyprus with her too.
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Postby Sotos » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:21 am

Greece won the Turks in the past many times. And now Greece is in EU and Turkey is not! I think at the right time a war is the only thing that can free north Cyprus. We just have to wait for it and it will not be that long.
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