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[Viewpoint]

Why was Akritas a pre condition for TCs to accept when they wanted to claim their rightful place in running the "RoC"??

1) There was never such pre-condition

2) The TCs do not recognize RoC and fought for its destruction (which is why why you use the word RoC within quotes) so how can you participate in the running of somehting you want to destroy?

You obvioulsly dont know your own history as probably know nothing to the supreme court judgement which the GCs choose to ignore as it didnt suit their cause which was to get rid of the TCs.

The GC stole what was ours and still have no intention of sharing anything unless we capitulate ot their demands.

[Bananiot]

How the hell can you talk of an attack when you have called me a traitor for 50 or 60 times so far. You are definitely losing it Piratis. You have taken a divorse from rationality.

Let me again remind you of some historical facts. Makarios gave a copy of his "proposals" to all guarantor countries, Greece, Britain and Turkey. They were asked to comment on them and furthermore, Makarios went on an official state visit to Turkey whene Inonu told him "Your Beautitude, I beg you to reconsider". He was bloody warned that he was about to release forces that would destroy Cyprus.

Here you are now, arguing childishly that had Britain not been here and had the Ottomans not conquered Cyprus we would have been okay today.

You simply do not know what you are rambling about Piratis. Actually, you remind me of the late Spyros Kyprianou, who kept telling the world that the Cyprus issue is an easy one. If the Turkish army leaves Cyprus, he argued, it will be solved within days.

[Piratis]

Why was Akritas a pre condition for TCs to accept when they wanted to claim their rightful place in running the "RoC"??

1) There was never such pre-condition

2) The TCs do not recognize RoC and fought for its destruction (which is why why you use the word RoC within quotes) so how can you participate in the running of somehting you want to destroy?

You obvioulsly dont know your own history as probably know nothing to the supreme court judgement which the GCs choose to ignore as it didnt suit their cause which was to get rid of the TCs.

The GC stole what was ours and still have no intention of sharing anything unless we capitulate ot their demands.

VP, I know the history of my own island much better than any Turk.

You said some lies, as usual, that "Akritas was a pre condition" and I simply corrected your lie. Do you have anything to support that argument?

GCs didn't stole anything. The ones that keep invading our island with the intention of stealing are none else than the Turks. We never ventured out of our own island to harm anybody.

Your minority of 18% can have its proportional share and human and minority rights as all other minorities in the world. This was never denied to you. But you have no right to steal our lands and demand 50% power for your 18% minority.

[Viewpoint]

Why was Akritas a pre condition for TCs to accept when they wanted to claim their rightful place in running the "RoC"??

1) There was never such pre-condition

2) The TCs do not recognize RoC and fought for its destruction (which is why why you use the word RoC within quotes) so how can you participate in the running of somehting you want to destroy?

You obvioulsly dont know your own history as probably know nothing to the supreme court judgement which the GCs choose to ignore as it didnt suit their cause which was to get rid of the TCs.

The GC stole what was ours and still have no intention of sharing anything unless we capitulate ot their demands.

VP, I know the history of my own island much better than any Turk.

You said some lies, as usual, that "Akritas was a pre condition" and I simply corrected your lie. Do you have anything to support that argument?

GCs didn't stole anything. The ones that keep invading our island with the intention of stealing are none else than the Turks. We never ventured out of our own island to harm anybody.

Your minority of 18% can have its proportional share and human and minority rights as all other minorities in the world. This was never denied to you. But you have no right to steal our lands and demand 50% power for your 18% minority.

No thanks, we are not just another minority we have community rights thats why the UN are trying to mediate a solution that will include our rights which are not that of just another minority as you wish to see us, this may be your dream but no one appears to be supporting you as the offer is BBF with political equality.

[Oracle]

What a childish argument! Really, only children can think like this. Piratis knows nothing about how this world is run that is why he always feels that we are hard done by just about every body.

The dreaded Americans, by the way, have dished out 15 million dollars per year since 1974 and when they thought we did not need any more assistance, we turned the world around to ensure that the dreaded Americans kept sending th#iier dirty dollars. The hippocricy of some people knows no end. This money was spent to built the refugge camps that housed some 180 000 refugees and Nicosia's new hospital among else.

I don't think Piratis feels hard done by personally Bananiot. He feels hard-done by for the Island he loves and wants to see restored rightfully back to the RoC.

Hard-done by is an understatement for what has really happened to our Island don't you think? ... even for you I would have thought the present situation is more than just indicative of mere "hardship".

I find your comments about grants towards assisting the refugees particularly distasteful, as if they should be so grateful for such crumbs, considering their losses.

[Piratis]

How the hell can you talk of an attack when you have called me a traitor for 50 or 60 times so far. You are definitely losing it Piratis. You have taken a divorse from rationality.

Let me again remind you of some historical facts. Makarios gave a copy of his "proposals" to all guarantor countries, Greece, Britain and Turkey. They were asked to comment on them and furthermore, Makarios went on an official state visit to Turkey whene Inonu told him "Your Beautitude, I beg you to reconsider". He was bloody warned that he was about to release forces that would destroy Cyprus.

Here you are now, arguing childishly that had Britain not been here and had the Ottomans not conquered Cyprus we would have been okay today.

You simply do not know what you are rambling about Piratis. Actually, you remind me of the late Spyros Kyprianou, who kept telling the world that the Cyprus issue is an easy one. If the Turkish army leaves Cyprus, he argued, it will be solved within days.

I am calling you what you are. Even in this thread your alliance with the Turkish partitionists (VP) against me is obvious. If you are not a traitor then why you are allied with the enemy? You are stupid? You want to be excused on the grounds of stupidity? If thats what you want, fine. I will call you stupid and not traitor. Is that OK with you?

Yes, Makarios gave a copy of his proposals to others. One thing is to inform others, and another thing is to expect their approval for what you will do with your own country. Why should the Cypriot president have the approval of Turkey to make proposals for changes in the constidution of Cyprus???


And yes Bananiot, why the problem of Cyprus exists is indeed very simple. Foreign powers (Turkey/UK) occupying parts of our island and using some minority as an excuse.

If those powers didn't want to occupy parts of our island for their own geopolitical reasons, or if Cyprus had the power to defend itself, then we wouldn't have a problem at all. In fact a TC minority, their latest excuse, would have never been created to begin with.

[Piratis]

Why was Akritas a pre condition for TCs to accept when they wanted to claim their rightful place in running the "RoC"??

1) There was never such pre-condition

2) The TCs do not recognize RoC and fought for its destruction (which is why why you use the word RoC within quotes) so how can you participate in the running of somehting you want to destroy?

You obvioulsly dont know your own history as probably know nothing to the supreme court judgement which the GCs choose to ignore as it didnt suit their cause which was to get rid of the TCs.

The GC stole what was ours and still have no intention of sharing anything unless we capitulate ot their demands.

VP, I know the history of my own island much better than any Turk.

You said some lies, as usual, that "Akritas was a pre condition" and I simply corrected your lie. Do you have anything to support that argument?

GCs didn't stole anything. The ones that keep invading our island with the intention of stealing are none else than the Turks. We never ventured out of our own island to harm anybody.

Your minority of 18% can have its proportional share and human and minority rights as all other minorities in the world. This was never denied to you. But you have no right to steal our lands and demand 50% power for your 18% minority.

No thanks, we are not just another minority we have community rights thats why the UN are trying to mediate a solution that will include our rights which are not that of just another minority as you wish to see us, this may be your dream but no one appears to be supporting you as the offer is BBF with political equality.

Of course you are just another minority. Your only difference is that you are a greedy, arrogant minority who wants to take more than any other minority by means of murder, ehtnic cleansing and blackmail.

Just you saying "we are not just another minority" proves your greediness and arrogance. The Greek minority of Turkey which you give no rights to, even the ones they deserve, are "just another minority", but you are not because you can kill and blackmail people and force them to give more to you, right VP? Well, the time you could force us to give to your minority more than what you deserve is over. Be sure that the war you started will last for as long as it takes for the native Cypriot people to get back their lands from the foreign invadors of your kind. We are going to give to you absolutely nothing from what rightfully belongs to us.

[Viewpoint]

Why was Akritas a pre condition for TCs to accept when they wanted to claim their rightful place in running the "RoC"??

1) There was never such pre-condition

2) The TCs do not recognize RoC and fought for its destruction (which is why why you use the word RoC within quotes) so how can you participate in the running of somehting you want to destroy?

You obvioulsly dont know your own history as probably know nothing to the supreme court judgement which the GCs choose to ignore as it didnt suit their cause which was to get rid of the TCs.

The GC stole what was ours and still have no intention of sharing anything unless we capitulate ot their demands.

VP, I know the history of my own island much better than any Turk.

You said some lies, as usual, that "Akritas was a pre condition" and I simply corrected your lie. Do you have anything to support that argument?

GCs didn't stole anything. The ones that keep invading our island with the intention of stealing are none else than the Turks. We never ventured out of our own island to harm anybody.

Your minority of 18% can have its proportional share and human and minority rights as all other minorities in the world. This was never denied to you. But you have no right to steal our lands and demand 50% power for your 18% minority.

No thanks, we are not just another minority we have community rights thats why the UN are trying to mediate a solution that will include our rights which are not that of just another minority as you wish to see us, this may be your dream but no one appears to be supporting you as the offer is BBF with political equality.

Of course you are just another minority. Your only difference is that you are a greedy, arrogant minority who wants to take more than any other minority by means of murder, ehtnic cleansing and blackmail.

Just you saying "we are not just another minority" proves your greediness and arrogance. The Greek minority of Turkey which you give no rights to, even the ones they deserve, are "just another minority", but you are not because you can kill and blackmail people and force them to give more to you, right VP? Well, the time you could force us to give to your minority more than what you deserve is over. Be sure that the war you started will last for as long as it takes for the native Cypriot people to get back their lands from the foreign invadors of your kind. We are going to give to you absolutely nothing from what rightfully belongs to us.

So you will vote against a BBF with political eqaulity solution?

[Piratis]

I will vote "yes" to it, as long as the "political equality" it is as understood by the UN, and not the 50% that you demand, and as long as the state that you control is no more than 9% of the territory of Cyprus and 9% of the coast line.

[humanist]

Bananiot, I have observed your posts as I have of everyone else on the forum some of whom I read past and some of whom I re-read to make sure I understand the discussion, proposal and coments.

Can you please reply to my question what do you see as a fair solution for the people of Cyprus all of them Turkish speaking and Greek speaking Cypriots and what the hec lets include those who speak other languages and practice other religions or are atheists.

Thank you.