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How many medals for "TRNC" in Beijing Olympics?

None, because they are not recognised.
1
11%
None, because they are illegal.
3
33%
None, because they are Extraordinary Human Rights Abusers.
0
No votes
None, because they are record UN Resolution violaters.
0
No votes
None, because they are not there.
5
56%
 
Total votes : 9

Postby iceman » Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:34 pm

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DT. wrote:All Cypriot athletes are welcome to register with KOA and the Cyprus Olympics Committee as are all TC football clubs welcome to register with the CFA. Then they can go to Beijing, Tokyo, Bangkok...wherever they please.


If you look up on the official webiste of Bejing 2008,the registered anthem for Cyprus is "Ymnos eis tin Eleftherian" (national anthem for Greece)
Do you seriously expect any TC to participate under KOA and the Cyprus Olympics Committee when you havent even made an attempt to choose an anthem to represent Cyprus?

This national anthem issue is a disgrace and (in my opinion) an insult to ANY Cypriot.
If ROC is going to claim to represent ALL Cypriots then they should have stopped using Ymnos eis tin Eleftherian long time ago!!

http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/NOC/CYP.shtml


I agree with you regarding the anthem. It is however an excuse, would you prefer we choose an anthem of our own for Cyprus pre-solution? Or is that the gc and tc athletes are going to win so many golds that we'll be playing the anthem every day?

I don't see what choice the ROC has on the anthem. I think you will find 90% of GC's in agreement as to the need of a new Cypriot anthem but is this something we can do pre-solution?


It most definately has to be the first thing we should negotiate..
Enough with the Greek & Turkish anthems..
we need an anthem we can call ours something that would represent us not Turkey or Greece..
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:36 pm

But then, you are asking the Turkish Cypriots to be part of the RoC team before solution. Vicious circle? The practical thing to do is to find a formula to have united teams to represent the whole of Cyprus in sport events, using a neutral flag and a classical piece for national anthem. This by itself will create a huge solution momentum.
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Postby roseandchan » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:22 pm

bananiot which language will the new national anthem be in?
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Postby DT. » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:47 pm

Bananiot wrote:But then, you are asking the Turkish Cypriots to be part of the RoC team before solution. Vicious circle? The practical thing to do is to find a formula to have united teams to represent the whole of Cyprus in sport events, using a neutral flag and a classical piece for national anthem. This by itself will create a huge solution momentum.


Afraid that can't be done. There is only one state on this island and all its sport federations are members of international bodies. There is no room for sentiment in this just a matter of what is legal and official and what is not.

I agree the Greek national anthem is not the best thing in the world for our TC compatriots, however occupying our homes and displaying giant sized illuminated flags on mountains isn't the most pleasant thing either.

In the grand sceme of things I'd prefer to hav my home back rather than bother with a piece of music.
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:11 pm

The new national anthem will be translated into Turksih and Greek, there is no problem here. You can sing it in any language you like.

DT has rejected my proposal. I would have thought the Turkish hard liners would object to it first. Never mind, we shall wait for solution first.
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Postby DT. » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:15 pm

Bananiot wrote:The new national anthem will be translated into Turksih and Greek, there is no problem here. You can sing it in any language you like.

DT has rejected my proposal. I would have thought the Turkish hard liners would object to it first. Never mind, we shall wait for solution first.


Why would I accept any proposal that undermines the Republic of Cyprus and its institutions?
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:19 pm

Vision DT, we talked about it before, vision!
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Postby DT. » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:26 pm

Bananiot wrote:Vision DT, we talked about it before, vision!


Thats exactly what you need bananiot. Vision to be able to see the dangers and not confuse your excitment of wanting a solution for critical dangers that will result in my kids and your grandkids suffering.

Perhaps when all you "Bas rejectionists and Bas acceptionists" are too old to affect things, then the realists amongst us in our generation will be able to accomplish something for this place. Your generation and the ones before it obviously suck at this, whether you call it vision or blindness.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:33 pm

roseandchan wrote:bananiot which language will the new national anthem be in?


This is not negotiable!

National anthems are usually in the most common language of the country, whether de facto or official ...

The anthem has to be in Greek, and the hymn / ode chosen has historical significance which is important to Cyprus and that is usually another good criterion for sticking with it. We do not need an anthem imposed on us by Turks or any minority group (in fact no other minority objects to the anthem).

Again this has only become an issue because of the attempts to Turkify the Island.
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:10 pm

The only thing that is Turkified is your brain Oracle. You must have a Turk in there. Never mind. We all have our faults.

DT, a visionary, like the leader of the party you support, knows the dangers for Cyprus if the current situation is allowed to continue for a while longer. In fact, the majority of Greek Cypriots understand this quite well now. If you do not believe me consider the advice of Glafkos Klerides when he said "if we say no we will be jumping down a ravine whose depth we do not know". He has also been called a traitor, by the way.
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