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[pantheman]

Hold on just a minute , Halil posted the results of a poll carried out which reflects the opinions of the people with whom we are currently engaged in negotiations in order to arrive at an acceptable to all solution.Pouring scorn and dismissing the poll results is rather pathetic , we at least have an understanding of how the T/Cs feel towards Talat and Serdar Denktas . Encouraging is that Talat is attracting the support of the vast majority of the people involved in this poll. We can not just merely dismiss any reaction by the T/Cs as meaningless and bearing no relation to the on-going negotiations.

Miltiades, you just don't get it do you. Polling 1000 people is hardly what the "T/Cs feel towards Talat and Serdar Denktas " is it now?

Also, Talat has no power and you know too well this is the situation. Turkey is the one that speaks NOT Talat. It doesn't matter what the few TCs have said, at the end of the day Turkey has 120,000 of her own who will vote for her.

Since Turkey is feeding them all, who do you think they are going to vote?

Polls from the Pseudostate are as good as polls on this forum, worth jack.

Have a good day.

[miltiades]

Hold on just a minute , Halil posted the results of a poll carried out which reflects the opinions of the people with whom we are currently engaged in negotiations in order to arrive at an acceptable to all solution.Pouring scorn and dismissing the poll results is rather pathetic , we at least have an understanding of how the T/Cs feel towards Talat and Serdar Denktas . Encouraging is that Talat is attracting the support of the vast majority of the people involved in this poll. We can not just merely dismiss any reaction by the T/Cs as meaningless and bearing no relation to the on-going negotiations.

Miltiades, you just don't get it do you. Polling 1000 people is hardly what the "T/Cs feel towards Talat and Serdar Denktas " is it now?

Also, Talat has no power and you know too well this is the situation. Turkey is the one that speaks NOT Talat. It doesn't matter what the few TCs have said, at the end of the day Turkey has 120,000 of her own who will vote for her.

Since Turkey is feeding them all, who do you think they are going to vote?

Polls from the Pseudostate are as good as polls on this forum, worth jack.

Have a good day.

P , you are wrong mate. Firstly a poll , any poll including those carried out by the world respected Morry poll and Gallup are usually involving about a 1000 or so pollsters.
The views of a thousand people across the spectrum is normally taken as representative of the people at large , therefore the poll in question does indicate a strong support for Talat .
Turkey is indeed the powerhouse but can not remain indifferent to the views of the people in the "trnc"
From the knowledge that I have accumulated over the years of interacting with T/Cs , in view primarily of my business which has hundreds of T/Cs as customers , but also importantly my association and friendship with like minded Cypriots , T/Cs and G/Cs as well as Armenian Cypriots , is that the overwhelming majority of T/C want a solution to the Cyprob just as much as we want and will support a moderate approach as against an extreme one that has as an agenda a permanent division or annexation of Cyprus's Northern area by Turkey.
In short we can not dismiss opinions from the T/Cs simply because they are in the "TRNC" , a part after all that the international community and the EU in particular consider an integral part of the RoC .

[Bananiot]

Miltiades, what better can you expect from these people? What is more pathetic is that they think that their ridiculous attitude offers the best services to our country. I do not call them rejectionists for nothing.

[Oracle]

Hold on just a minute , Halil posted the results of a poll carried out which reflects the opinions of the people with whom we are currently engaged in negotiations in order to arrive at an acceptable to all solution.Pouring scorn and dismissing the poll results is rather pathetic , we at least have an understanding of how the T/Cs feel towards Talat and Serdar Denktas . Encouraging is that Talat is attracting the support of the vast majority of the people involved in this poll. We can not just merely dismiss any reaction by the T/Cs as meaningless and bearing no relation to the on-going negotiations.

So now you want the "opinion" polls representative of close to 150,000 Anatolian settlers as to what should happen in our country?

[Oracle]

Do you think present government is successfully:
% 46 -Yes
% 38 -No
% 9 -Yes and No
% 7 .No idea

9% said Yes and No and somehow this is different to the 7% that said they had No idea ..


What a joke and a farce; and so highly indicative of the puppetry that persists ....

[Nikitas]

Polling samples in Greece, with a population of nearly 11 million are regarded as reliable if the sample is 1080 people. In the population of TRNC the sample seems more than ample.

Knowing public opinion among TCs is very useful, therefore I do not understand the reaction.

I note from Tess, who lives in the north and talks to people there, that there is a desire for a settlement along EU lines. Does that not tell you people something? It rang bells for me and it seems to have the potential to everturn what Talat had said three years ago, that the EU laws favor the GCs and therefore a solution must be found outside the rules.

Remember that the EU rules mandate freedom of establishment, freedom of movement for people and capital, incorporation of the European Human rights rules, and above all the right to own property anywhere in the EU.

You need more info than this?

[halil]

more results are released today at daily kibrisli news paper.

lets see the categories (these are the peoples identities that they didn't decide to vote yet)

İdentities .

%4.7 others
%3.6 conservative
%4.6 liberal
%5.8 right
%8.7 left
%14.8 From Turkey (settler)
%18.5 social democrat
%24.0 democrat
%24.8 European
%31.6 Cypriot
%38.6 Nationalist
%38.8 İslamist
%69.5 Turkish Cypriots .

above poll was to shows politacal identites of the people.from above poll almost %70 of the declare themself as a TC.
%49 İslamist
%39 nationalist .

1/3 ratio of the people called themself as a Cypriot .
1/4 ratio of the people called themself as a Europian .

at below link you can find the results in Turkish.

http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=14695

[Tim Drayton]

more results are released today at daily kibrisli news paper.

lets see the categories (these are the peoples identities that they didn't decide to vote yet)

İdentities .

%4.7 others
%3.6 conservative
%4.6 liberal
%5.8 right
%8.7 left
%14.8 From Turkey (settler)
%18.5 social democrat
%24.0 democrat
%24.8 European
%31.6 Cypriot
%38.6 Nationalist
%38.8 İslamist
%69.5 Turkish Cypriots .

above poll was to shows politacal identites of the people.from above poll almost %70 of the declare themself as a TC.
%49 İslamist
%39 nationalist .

1/3 ratio of the people called themself as a Cypriot .
1/4 ratio of the people called themself as a Europian .

at below link you can find the results in Turkish.

http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=14695

In terms of identity, 49% declared themselves to be "Muslim". You should be careful about using the term "Islamist", because this implies support for radical political Islam.

I am curious about the methodology here. The total under "identity" is well in excess of 100. How many options were people given, or is each item a separate yes/no question?

Halil, the link you give only gives a summary of the main results. Can you give a link to the whole survey, or do you have to buy the paper for this?

[halil]

more results are released today at daily kibrisli news paper.

lets see the categories (these are the peoples identities that they didn't decide to vote yet)

İdentities .

%4.7 others
%3.6 conservative
%4.6 liberal
%5.8 right
%8.7 left
%14.8 From Turkey (settler)
%18.5 social democrat
%24.0 democrat
%24.8 European
%31.6 Cypriot
%38.6 Nationalist
%38.8 İslamist
%69.5 Turkish Cypriots .

above poll was to shows politacal identites of the people.from above poll almost %70 of the declare themself as a TC.
%49 İslamist
%39 nationalist .

1/3 ratio of the people called themself as a Cypriot .
1/4 ratio of the people called themself as a Europian .

at below link you can find the results in Turkish.

http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=14695

In terms of identity, 49% declared themselves to be "Muslim". You should be careful about using the term "Islamist", because this implies support for radical political Islam.

I am curious about the methodology here. The total under "identity" is well in excess of 100. How many options were people given, or is each item a separate yes/no question?

Halil, the link you give only gives a summary of the main results. Can you give a link to the whole survey, or do you have to buy the paper for this?

yes , Tim you are correct i should write muslim ,because in article it saysays Müslüman .

i am afraid you should get the paper.

on the paper says :
Anket çalışmasını yapan KSAM bu amaçla kararsızların siyasal kimliklerini de ortaya çıkarmaya yönelmiş .Araştırma sonuçlarına göre görüşülen kişilere kendilerini üç kelimeyle anlatacak olurlarsa hangilerini seçecekleri sorulmuştur.örneklemenin %70 i kendini Kıbrıslı Türk .%49 Müslüman ,%39 milliyetci olarak tanımlamıştır.
Kıbrıslı diyenlerin oranı üçte bir e yakındır .dörtte bir de kendini avrupalı olarak tanımladı.

[Tim Drayton]

more results are released today at daily kibrisli news paper.

lets see the categories (these are the peoples identities that they didn't decide to vote yet)

İdentities .

%4.7 others
%3.6 conservative
%4.6 liberal
%5.8 right
%8.7 left
%14.8 From Turkey (settler)
%18.5 social democrat
%24.0 democrat
%24.8 European
%31.6 Cypriot
%38.6 Nationalist
%38.8 İslamist
%69.5 Turkish Cypriots .

above poll was to shows politacal identites of the people.from above poll almost %70 of the declare themself as a TC.
%49 İslamist
%39 nationalist .

1/3 ratio of the people called themself as a Cypriot .
1/4 ratio of the people called themself as a Europian .

at below link you can find the results in Turkish.

http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=14695

In terms of identity, 49% declared themselves to be "Muslim". You should be careful about using the term "Islamist", because this implies support for radical political Islam.

I am curious about the methodology here. The total under "identity" is well in excess of 100. How many options were people given, or is each item a separate yes/no question?

Halil, the link you give only gives a summary of the main results. Can you give a link to the whole survey, or do you have to buy the paper for this?

yes , Tim you are correct i should write muslim ,because in article it saysays Müslüman .

i am afraid you should get the paper.

on the paper says :
Anket çalışmasını yapan KSAM bu amaçla kararsızların siyasal kimliklerini de ortaya çıkarmaya yönelmiş .Araştırma sonuçlarına göre görüşülen kişilere kendilerini üç kelimeyle anlatacak olurlarsa hangilerini seçecekleri sorulmuştur.örneklemenin %70 i kendini Kıbrıslı Türk .%49 Müslüman ,%39 milliyetci olarak tanımlamıştır.
Kıbrıslı diyenlerin oranı üçte bir e yakındır .dörtte bir de kendini avrupalı olarak tanımladı.

I see. So they had to choose the three items that they felt best described them. The total is about 288, so this begins to make sense.